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Post by barley on Dec 12, 2016 9:48:02 GMT
Yep. Can you believe it? I can't I noticed Alfie has been drinking quite a lot lately but kept telling myself he's had every test under the sun over the past few months, and that kidneys etc were absolutely fine. Anyway last night and night before he got me up to go outside to pee in the night which is very unusual so vets with a sample this morning. Vet done a dipstick test and glucose test reacted immediately. He said it is caused by the pancreatitis? Waiting for blood test results to come back and seeing vet again at midday. Gonna be twice daily insulin - how will I do that?! EDIT - blood glucose test came back normal despite high glucose reading in the urine. Vet consulted internal medicine specialist at AHT who thinks likely Fanconi Syndrome - most tests tomorrow!
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Post by alfiemummy on Dec 12, 2016 9:54:37 GMT
Oh no! Poor Alfie and poor you, it's just one thing after another for you two!
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Post by lotsofcats on Dec 12, 2016 9:55:00 GMT
OH, poor Alfie. Let us know how you get on at the vets today.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 11:29:31 GMT
(((BIG HUGS))) First of all - don't panic My jack russell Buster had diabetes and had a daily insulin injection into the scruff of his neck every morning and he was perfectly ok about it. He'd jump up onto the kitchen table and sit calmly whilst we injected him. Dogs are pretty cool about stuff like this I've found.....unlike the diabetic cat I fostered for a few weeks for PARRT: he hated his injections and would wriggle like stink Buster had his diabetes in the late 90's so by now they'll have made HUGE advances in treatment and stuff I'm sure and I cannot see any reason why our gorgeous lad shouldn't live out his normal span. Gypsy will know more and probably put any worries you have to rest (((HUGS))) If you have any questions for the vet then write them down so you don't forget I'm sure it'll all be fine....will be sending LOTS of ((((((healing vibes)))))) to Alfie at 12 noon.
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Post by caz2golden on Dec 12, 2016 11:41:48 GMT
So very sorry to hear this barley . Yes pancreatitis and diabetes is very closely linked. It has always been my fear with Gypsy as her mum had sudden onset diabetes but that was diagnosed too late to help her and now with Gypsy and her pancreatitis I am conscious she is at higher risk than some (i.e has damaged pancreas + a genetic link). I also have no idea how I would cope but I know I would cope somehow! Think Gilly has given you some excellent advice, such as dont panic, ask questions etc. I hope gypsy will be along to give some advice.
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Post by barley on Dec 12, 2016 13:02:19 GMT
Thanks guys, really appreciate the replies Too much to update on my phone but will do so this evening on laptop or when back at work if get the time x
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Post by tonib on Dec 12, 2016 15:15:42 GMT
Oh crikey, one thing after another for you & Alfie. Fingers crossed for good results. However I'm sure that if Alfie does need regular injections he'll be very good for you.
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Post by bextull on Dec 12, 2016 15:35:51 GMT
Yep. Can you believe it? I can't I noticed Alfie has been drinking quite a lot lately but kept telling myself he's had every test under the sun over the past few months, and that kidneys etc were absolutely fine. Anyway last night and night before he got me up to go outside to pee in the night which is very unusual so vets with a sample this morning. Vet done a dipstick test and glucose test reacted immediately. He said it is caused by the pancreatitis? Waiting for blood test results to come back and seeing vet again at midday. Gonna be twice daily insulin - how will I do that?! Diabetes is quite manageable once you get into a routine that works for you (and your vet will obviously work out an insulin regime that suits you best). Most insulin injections are subcutaneous (under the skin) so many dogs tolerate them quiet well. Of course, there is also some training that you can do to help make the experience easier for both of you. As for yourself actually giving injections, it's much easier than most people think. If you're a bit weary of doing it, then bananas are good to practice on as their skin is very similar to a dogs (in terms of thickness). For most owners, the most challenging thing about diabetes is not giving any treats throughout the day and managing when you go for walks. Everything needs to be consistent (avoid exercise at peak insulin times, diet needs to be 2 equal meals a day prior to insulin, may need to increase food to keep weight on, etc). You're vet will obviously go over everything with you too.
It can be very daunting and quite difficult in the beginning but you will work something out .
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Post by barley on Dec 12, 2016 18:47:00 GMT
Not good news Blood glucose levels were absolutely fine so vet spoke to AHT. Currently thinking its a type of extremely rare kidney disease called Faconi Syndrome. My vet has never known a case before and it's usually caused by ingesting a toxin. Other possibility is leptospirosis but he's fully vaccinated. More tests tomorrow at 9am.
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Post by caz2golden on Dec 12, 2016 18:53:35 GMT
Never heard of that one so off to google it. Sending you big hugs.
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Post by caz2golden on Dec 12, 2016 19:13:22 GMT
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Post by barley on Dec 12, 2016 19:48:32 GMT
The jerky treats was the first thing vet mentioned but he hasn't had anything like that. Grapes and raisins can cause it also but again he's not had any of them.
I read about Basenjis too! Playing Dr Google now.
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Post by caz2golden on Dec 12, 2016 21:10:11 GMT
One of the internet pages I just found puts tick borne diseases as a possible source, has he had any ticks of late?
.....................Though also most sites are also American!
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Post by scallywag on Dec 12, 2016 21:24:10 GMT
O blimey just catching up barley , poor you , poor Alfie , reading the posts on here , losing me a bit, sending big {{{HUGS}}} to you both, stay positive, xxx
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Post by barley on Dec 12, 2016 21:32:01 GMT
One of the internet pages I just found puts tick borne diseases as a possible source, has he had any ticks of late? Nope, he's never had a tick in his life (to my knowledge). Head is spinning now... got a list of things to ask vet tomorrow but since he's never dealt with it either, then I'm not sure what help he will be! The prognosis seems quite good if caught early. I just don't understand where/how he could have possibly got it. He doesn't go out of my sight on walks, has not eaten anything toxic that I know of. I'm sure vet went through meds with AHT (and he's not on any tablets now, just eye drops) so anything would have been called up there. A couple of sites have mentioned a link to pancreatitis. When the vet done the urine dipstick this morning he said diabetes can occur after a bad attack of pancreatitis and that the sample patch would start to go blue. It went black the second it touched the urine! Vet tried once more and same thing happened so he opened a new pot of test strips as he couldn't believe how strong and sudden the reaction was. But then blood glucose was totally normal. O blimey just catching up barley , poor you , poor Alfie , reading the posts on here , losing me a bit, sending big {{{HUGS}}} to you both, stay positive, xxx Thank you - it's loosing me a bit too! x
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