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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 8:20:13 GMT
Neil and I have just got back from a mooch around the allotments and there's quite a few (half a dozen or so that we saw) that are empty, not as badly overgrown as I'd feared and, best of all, have some good fencing around them with padlocks on the gates Had a chat with a guy who's had one up there for 4 years and it seems the council are clearing a lot of the middle neglected area that was really bad (6ft+ weeds, bricks, junk etc) and putting some decent fencing up so I'm feeling quietly optimistic......in a kind-of bouncing off the ceiling with excitement sort of way Even the plots that are a little overgrown with buttercup, nettles, etc aren't as bad as I'd originally feared and even Neil was pretty impressed and says that even the WORST plot will be easily sorted. With him working as security on an opencast site he can get all manner of stuff which he can salvage from there (legally with permission from his boss as it'll just be scrapped otherwise) which would be ideal for an allotment (railway sleepers, barbed wire to keep toerags out , wood to build a shed etc. So fingers crossed
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Post by smilesbetter on Jul 24, 2014 8:57:19 GMT
Neil and I have just got back from a mooch around the allotments and there's quite a few (half a dozen or so that we saw) that are empty, not as badly overgrown as I'd feared and, best of all, have some good fencing around them with padlocks on the gates Had a chat with a guy who's had one up there for 4 years and it seems the council are clearing a lot of the middle neglected area that was really bad (6ft+ weeds, bricks, junk etc) and putting some decent fencing up so I'm feeling quietly optimistic......in a kind-of bouncing off the ceiling with excitement sort of way Even the plots that are a little overgrown with buttercup, nettles, etc aren't as bad as I'd originally feared and even Neil was pretty impressed and says that even the WORST plot will be easily sorted. With him working as security on an opencast site he can get all manner of stuff which he can salvage from there (legally with permission from his boss as it'll just be scrapped otherwise) which would be ideal for an allotment (railway sleepers, barbed wire to keep toerags out , wood to build a shed etc. So fingers crossed Nettles are really good for you if you cook and eat them! Haha. Sounds good anyway, can't wait to see the pics once you've transformed one! I reeeeally want one of the allotments on my road haha!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 12:17:13 GMT
I'd be leaving a patch of nettles for the butterflies to lay their eggs on anyway At the moment I'm planning to grow a LOT of my favourite flowers but it would be nice to try some veg too as I've never done that before....other than planting a few spuds from my kitchen that had gone green when we lived in the farm cottage in the hills. It was ridiculously exciting seeing the plants grow and I didn't do anything that the books tell you to but we still got a lovely crop of small potatoes And one added bonus was that the soil was wonderfully broken up and fine so it saved on endless digging. Don't worry - there'll be LOTS of photos from Day 1 as we *hopefully* transform it to a garden full to busting with flowers and veg I think Neil is more looking forward to chilling out in his shed more than owt else He's good at building things and coming up with useful ideas but is clueless when it comes to plants and growing them....THAT will be my department.
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Post by smilesbetter on Jul 24, 2014 15:02:20 GMT
My man has reinstalled the cat net on our balcony much to Miezes delight. I'm just hoping she doesn't squash any more of my plants. I might have to put a shelf in the wall that gives her a higher vantage point, although knowing me I'd fill it with herbs and things too haha. I'd be leaving a patch of nettles for the butterflies to lay their eggs on anyway At the moment I'm planning to grow a LOT of my favourite flowers but it would be nice to try some veg too as I've never done that before....other than planting a few spuds from my kitchen that had gone green when we lived in the farm cottage in the hills. It was ridiculously exciting seeing the plants grow and I didn't do anything that the books tell you to but we still got a lovely crop of small potatoes And one added bonus was that the soil was wonderfully broken up and fine so it saved on endless digging. Don't worry - there'll be LOTS of photos from Day 1 as we *hopefully* transform it to a garden full to busting with flowers and veg I think Neil is more looking forward to chilling out in his shed more than owt else He's good at building things and coming up with useful ideas but is clueless when it comes to plants and growing them....THAT will be my department. You definitely should try growing food, it's sooo rewarding and nothing tastes better than home grown stuff! My favourites to grow are probably tomatoes as you get looooads and they are incredibly tasty! Plus tomato flowers attract bees which is lovely to have in the garden, and you might even get birds! Today we saw a bird using one of the support sticks on the tomato plants as a perch. UnfortunTely the cats didn't see and missed out on possibly the most exciting visitor to our balcony yet haha. Also growing herbs is great, I always have a basil plant and my man just bought me a pre-grown mint plant today (growing from scratch is way more rewarding though). Also if your keeping a wild corner I'd recommend growing some dandelions, they are delicious in salad and attract all sorts of interesting insects which in turn attract some pretty cool wildlife. If you grow flowers which release their scent at night, you'll attract moths and things which should attract bats too! I really want a garden!!!!!! Haha. I'm not sure I'll manage to get one big enough to accommodate all my plants, maybe I should just get a field hahaha.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 15:52:12 GMT
That's what I said to Neil...should we go for a full size allotment or a half? I'd actually prefer a full one as I can then take my time cultivating it over a number of years and not have to worry about outgrowing it as quickly as a half plot If we get the plot we had our eye on this morning it's right next to Hulne Park so we'll get loads of wild birds and bats and stuff....and I can even get a few feeders put up too, especially in the winter months. We've often talked about getting an allotment (for the past eight years at least!) and I've just decided to Do It and stop faffing about. I've been SO lost without Sandy and the companionship and walks we enjoyed together and the past few weeks have seen me feeling very low and not really sure where life was going Don't get me wrong, I love my cats SO much but they don't get me out and about and active as much as having a dog did. I've been having a big tidy up and declutter in the bedroom these past two/three days and the 18 inches square vivarium we used to have stick insects in (and the hedgehog last year) is now in the living room and I'm going to plant it up as a kind-of terrarium. At the moment Lily is asleep on top of it as she obviously regards it as some sort of new cool high-rise bed Unfortunately I cannot find my camera which is INFURIATING as I could have had some really cute snaps of her Seem to have mislaid my watch too which IS annoying!!!
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Post by smilesbetter on Jul 24, 2014 16:23:09 GMT
Glad your finally doing it @gillykat , I'd go for a full one of I were you! You can always let part of it go a bit wild until you can get round to doing it up properly (although wild bits are ace) and as you say it will certainly get you out more and keep you active! Do you think you could train the cats to go out on harnesses? Also I bet the allotment would be great for bird watching too, it would be your local patch! Also bummer about the camera, maybe you have a magpie kitten? ;P
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 17:17:15 GMT
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Post by bectil on Jul 31, 2014 17:39:07 GMT
@gillykat, lovely photos! The allotments look nice and big I think nasturtiums are one of them types of plants that are best left to self sow. I grew some nasturtiums a few years ago and looked they awful - I put some (when they were small and didn't look bad) into a hanging basket at my grandmas, and they ended up being left, so they self seeded. They cover a nice big area of the garden now, and last year they started to climb up the fence! Another plant I grew a few years ago were Nigellas (love-in-a-mist) - I let them self seed in the stone boarders, and now the look beautiful!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 17:58:24 GMT
I adore Nigellas and cannot believe that I forgot to grow some this year!!! These allotments ARE on a nice big site with 72 plots and there's a few of them empty and/or neglected so I'm going to give it another fortnight and if I haven't heard anything I'm going to get in touch with the council department I sent my application into and start being a pest A polite one but still a determined pest If you don't give them a chance to forget about you they tend to give you what you're after just to get rid of you The chap we were talking to today says some of the neglected plots ARE rented out by people but they never bother to actually do anything with them from year to year so, in my opinion, they should be given 6 months to either start working on them regularly or give them up and let someone like me who WILL care for them take them over. One of the plots was immaculate (wish I'd got a pic - I will in the next day or so) with neat raised beds, spotless straight paths, not a weed to be seen.....I told Neil that THAT was what I would be working towards with our plot!
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Post by tonib on Jul 31, 2014 20:39:42 GMT
Now that caravan/shed is a novel idea @gillykat Those allotments look good, hope you hear soon & don't have to be a pest
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Post by bectil on Aug 3, 2014 19:22:21 GMT
@gillykat, did you watch Gardeners World the other night? They were talking about allotments and they visited one which was like a secret garden.. when you think of allotment, you think veg patches, ECT. well this one patch was mostly all ornamental plants! www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04cnx4m/gardeners-world-2014-episode-19 (starts around 19:21)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 12:52:17 GMT
I did see it - wasn't it fabulous! Neil hasn't seen it yet so he'll watch it on the iPlayer tomorrow when he's off. I also love the Beechgrove Garden which is based in Scotland but VERY informative and I learn something new every week from it....and am forever scribbling down notes When we get our allotment I plan to grow a few veg but DEFINITELY lots of flowers and make it very wildlife friendly
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Post by smilesbetter on Aug 4, 2014 13:43:47 GMT
I've been getting some tomatoes off my tomato plants, delicious! Also one of my bell pepper plants is growing a pepper which has been amazing to watch. It's only been growing a few days and gets lots bigger every day! If it's tasty then I'll look into keeping the seeds for growing future plants from it. Quite jealous of you getting an allotment @gillykat , I so want one. They are mostly gardens really here, since no one in the city has gardens otherwise, but quite a few grow food too. If you want a wee DIY project, you could try making one of those insect hotels for your allotment when you get it. Also if you do do something like that caravan shed - it would look absolutely stunning if it had vine plants growing up it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:00:06 GMT
Already planning to build an insect hotel with various different-sized cavities and tubes for them to breed and hibernate in I've always said that if you look after the small stuff the garden stays balanced and relatively pest-free. Haven't heard anything more from the council yet but I'll give them a couple more weeks before I start pestering them And vines? I just LOVE the look of those and most climbing plants (clematis, passiflora, golden hop, Virginia creeper etc) so I'll definitely be growing upwards and over as well as IN the ground
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Post by smilesbetter on Aug 6, 2014 10:19:29 GMT
Awesome, can't wait to see the photos when you get it (I'm sure you will) @gillykat ! Totally jealous though hahaha.
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