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Post by mutts on Aug 17, 2016 6:08:03 GMT
Ah poor Alfie 😣 I hope he starts to feel much better soon 😊
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Post by caz2golden on Aug 17, 2016 8:03:32 GMT
Thanks for asking barley , Gypsy seems to be doing ok at this precise moment. Your are wholeheartedly 100% welcome to muscle in   Hope Alfie is ok this morning and that the bloods come back indicating that there is not too much of an issue. Hope the AHT can advise on the medication and if any alterations to diet are required (and for what duration). |
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Post by barley on Aug 17, 2016 17:36:15 GMT
Thanks for asking barley , Gypsy seems to be doing ok at this precise moment. Your are wholeheartedly 100% welcome to muscle in Hope Alfie is ok this morning and that the bloods come back indicating that there is not too much of an issue. Hope the AHT can advise on the medication and if any alterations to diet are required (and for what duration). I'm really pleased to hear Gypsy is doing ok  Vet said anything over the 200 is abnormal and Alfie's test came back as 659! He said, based on that score, Alfie should be doubled up with pain and refusing to eat. But honestly, he's been at work with me today and he's bright & alert, been on ''cat watch'' out of the office window all day, sleeping either on his back or stretched on his side, showing no pain at all. He ate 1/3 tin of Hills i/d for breakfast and for lunch, and same again just now. Hasn't been sick all day, toilet ok. So am a bit stumped  Vet has given Tramadol tablets but I've heard so many bad things about them that I'm scared of giving them! He's given me the print out of his results for AHT. I know you guys aren't vets, but does anyone know what all these tests actually mean/show? Vet said they were all normal, but to me, some look outside of normal margins? He gave them to me in an envelope and I didn't look until I got home, so wasn't able to ask. Our appointment at the AHT is at 3pm tomorrow so I will see what they say and if I'm not happy, I'll still be back in time to make evening consults at normal vets to see them.   |
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Post by caz2golden on Aug 17, 2016 19:32:05 GMT
Think thats one for gypsy barley . I think I know what a few of them stand for :- BUN = blood urea nitrogen ALT = liver enzyme CHOL = Cholesterol AMYL = amylase LIPA = lipase Not so sure about some of the others but I think they stand for the following :- GLU = glucose CREA = Creatinine UREA = Urea PHOS = Phosphorus CA = Calcium TP = Total Protein TBIL = Bilirubin Sorry no idea about the others! |
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Post by gypsy on Aug 17, 2016 19:47:34 GMT
Thanks for asking barley , Gypsy seems to be doing ok at this precise moment. Your are wholeheartedly 100% welcome to muscle in Hope Alfie is ok this morning and that the bloods come back indicating that there is not too much of an issue. Hope the AHT can advise on the medication and if any alterations to diet are required (and for what duration). I'm really pleased to hear Gypsy is doing ok Vet said anything over the 200 is abnormal and Alfie's test came back as 659! He said, based on that score, Alfie should be doubled up with pain and refusing to eat. But honestly, he's been at work with me today and he's bright & alert, been on ''cat watch'' out of the office window all day, sleeping either on his back or stretched on his side, showing no pain at all. He ate 1/3 tin of Hills i/d for breakfast and for lunch, and same again just now. Hasn't been sick all day, toilet ok. So am a bit stumped Vet has given Tramadol tablets but I've heard so many bad things about them that I'm scared of giving them! He's given me the print out of his results for AHT. I know you guys aren't vets, but does anyone know what all these tests actually mean/show? Vet said they were all normal, but to me, some look outside of normal margins? He gave them to me in an envelope and I didn't look until I got home, so wasn't able to ask. Our appointment at the AHT is at 3pm tomorrow so I will see what they say and if I'm not happy, I'll still be back in time to make evening consults at normal vets to see them. I will try to explain the results. Your vet said they were normal but I understand your confusion. The thing is although there are parameters with bloods, what is considered normal for one dog might not be so for another. For example, a dog's age, general health, current medications and current health issues are often reflected in the results. All of them are within the 'normal' range with the exception of three; GLU, ALT and GGT which are all slightly elevated but not elevated enough to give real concern. The GLU (glucose) is slightly elevated (high blood sugar) but this is likely due to Alfie's current health problems because pancreatitis affects the body's ability to produce insulin. The ALT (Alanine Transaminase) value concerns the liver and can be elevated due to any gastro intestinal disease. Slightly elevated liver values might be expected in an older dog or a dog currently recieving certain medications. That doesn't mean to say this value can't return to within the 'normal' range. GGT is basically an enzyme that also concerns the liver and again this could be elevated due to the pancreatitis or the administration of steroids. To summarise, your vet has probably deemed these blood results as normal because the elevations are what would be expected in a dog suffering from pancreatitis, but they aren't elevated enough to cause real concern or indicate there are significant complications as a result of the pancreatitis. Hope this helps |
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Post by barley on Aug 17, 2016 20:20:03 GMT
Think thats one for gypsy barley . I think I know what a few of them stand for :- BUN = blood urea nitrogen ALT = liver enzyme CHOL = Cholesterol AMYL = amylase LIPA = lipase Not so sure about some of the others but I think they stand for the following :- GLU = glucose CREA = Creatinine UREA = Urea PHOS = Phosphorus CA = Calcium TP = Total Protein TBIL = Bilirubin Sorry no idea about the others! Thank you! I guess a couple but was like '''whaaaaat?!''. Confusing! barley I will try to explain the results. Your vet said they were normal but I understand your confusion. The thing is although there are parameters with bloods, what is considered normal for one dog might not be so for another. For example, a dog's age, general health, current medications and current health issues are often reflected in the results. All of them are within the 'normal' range with the exception of three; GLU, ALT and GGT which are all slightly elevated but not elevated enough to give real concern. The GLU (glucose) is slightly elevated (high blood sugar) but this is likely due to Alfie's current health problems because pancreatitis affects the body's ability to produce insulin. The ALT (Alanine Transaminase) value concerns the liver and can be elevated due to any gastro intestinal disease. Slightly elevated liver values might be expected in an older dog or a dog currently recieving certain medications. That doesn't mean to say this value can't return to within the 'normal' range. GGT is basically an enzyme that also concerns the liver and again this could be elevated due to the pancreatitis or the administration of steroids. To summarise, your vet has probably deemed these blood results as normal because the elevations are what would be expected in a dog suffering from pancreatitis, but they aren't elevated enough to cause real concern or indicate there are significant complications as a result of the pancreatitis. Hope this helps Thank you so much, this is extremely helpful. |
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Post by boxerluver30 on Aug 18, 2016 18:54:19 GMT
Sorry to hear about Alfie barley, hope hes better soon x |
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Post by barley on Aug 18, 2016 19:05:31 GMT
AHT have taken him off the steroids today and put him onto a tablet that lines his tummy to help protect it. The Tramadol is making him really groggy so they said to try giving it every twelve hours rather than every eight like my vet said, and to only give one tablet each time rather than one & a half.
I've been told to feed him Burns chicken & rice soaked in warm water and to give him 4-5 small meals rather than 2. They said that by the time he's at the end of the bag he should be able to move onto something else/something better, but this will help him whilst in the midst of the flare up.
Eye check went well also, although he does need to go back on Wednesday for an injection into his left eye to reduce the last remaining bits of inflammation! Eeeek!!
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Post by scallywag on Aug 18, 2016 19:58:23 GMT
AHT have taken him off the steroids today and put him onto a tablet that lines his tummy to help protect it. The Tramadol is making him really groggy so they said to try giving it every twelve hours rather than every eight like my vet said, and to only give one tablet each time rather than one & a half. I've been told to feed him Burns chicken & rice soaked in warm water and to give him 4-5 small meals rather than 2. They said that by the time he's at the end of the bag he should be able to move onto something else/something better, but this will help him whilst in the midst of the flare up. Eye check went well also, although he does need to go back on Wednesday for an injection into his left eye to reduce the last remaining bits of inflammation! Eeeek!! Ooooo Tramadol , from memory when Beau was given that after his cruciate op, well that kept making him throw up, so we came off that after 2 days. He's also on Burns Chicken and brown rice, and this is good for his sensitive tum, he's been on it 8 years now with no deviations ....I Know ... how boring ... you are thinking but... he has never turned his nose up at it either |
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Post by gypsy on Aug 18, 2016 21:06:42 GMT
Tramadol is often used for pain relief in dogs. Its actually a very safe drug....a lot safer than NSAIDS! I give it to my dog for his stomach cramps when he has a flare up of IBD, more effective than Buscopan. Never suffered any side effects before now, though drowsiness is quite common with many dogs, but it tends to be short lived once a dog has adjusted to the Tramadol. Relieved the AHT have taken Alfie off the steroid barley and hope he makes a full recovery now. |
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Post by tonib on Aug 18, 2016 21:26:34 GMT
Sorry to hear about Alfie barley but hopefully the change in his medications will do the job to relieve the cause & the diet change to relieve the symptoms. |
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Post by barley on Aug 21, 2016 7:13:27 GMT
Waiting for the vets to open at 9.30 as he's been being sick again in the night  |
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Post by scallywag on Aug 21, 2016 7:15:20 GMT
Oh no barley let us know how you get on , obviously only when you get time, poor Alfie , give him cuddles from me please  |
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Post by mutts on Aug 21, 2016 8:47:05 GMT
Oh barley wishing you and Alfie all the luck. |
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Post by barley on Aug 21, 2016 10:50:31 GMT
Thanks scallywag & mutts xx The vet gave him another anti-sickness jab and increased his Tramadol back up to every eight hours again. He said that if he carries on being sick to take him to VetsNow to go on IV fluids, but so far, so good. He hasn't been sick since about 6 this morning, has kept his breakfast down. The vet said to give 10-12 really tiny meals (spoonful or so) rather than four larger ones so he only has little bits of food to digest each time. Our vet said he should go back on Hills i/d and that even the Burns was probably a bit rich for him right now. Conflicting info is a PITA! I said the Hills i/d would make him itch if he carried on eating it because of the maize so he said anything with a similar fat content would be ok. I remember Arden Grange Sensitive wet being mentioned as really low fat so I went to PAH to see if they had that but they didn't. I read every packet of food, quite literally! Lowest I found was Naturediet fish @ 2% fat which is the same as the Arden Grange so I have got that. Hills i/d wet is higher at 3.7% so hopefully it'll be ok. |
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