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Post by barley on Jan 24, 2016 11:44:08 GMT
Yep, 100% sure. Providing her rabies vacc is kept up to date, the others are irrelevant as far as her passport is concerned. But one needs to check the relevant laws in countries they want to travel to. Throughout Europe (where pet passports are valid), the rules are the same No vaccination requirements bar rabies.
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Post by migsy on Feb 16, 2016 23:07:45 GMT
I took Skip for his hello visit to the vets today,(haven't managed to go since before Christmas)and asked about Lepto 4 vaccine,it is the one they use eeek!...I asked if any dogs had had problems after it and was told no.I am still worried and wonder if gypsy has had any problems at her vets after the vaccines. I haven't heard of any in my area,but will ask on local forum.Has anyones dog on this forum actually had adverse reactions to it. Skip goes into kennels when we visit our daughter abroad,so like others,he has to be vaccinated.Being stuck between a rock and a hard place isn't in it,aaargh!
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Post by zahada on Feb 16, 2016 23:43:15 GMT
I had my dogs boostered early so that we could still only have the L2 as the vets were in the process of changing over to L4. But from next year it's L4, I guess all vets will be changing, don't know why as the relevant strains of lepto are nowhere near where we live. The power of the pharmaceuticals perhaps?
I've heard of a couple of dogs being of colour after L4, but nothing serious. Possibly a normal reaction to vax.
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Post by gypsy on Feb 17, 2016 0:04:34 GMT
I took Skip for his hello visit to the vets today,(haven't managed to go since before Christmas)and asked about Lepto 4 vaccine,it is the one they use eeek!...I asked if any dogs had had problems after it and was told no. I am still worried and wonder if gypsy has had any problems at her vets after the vaccines.I haven't heard of any in my area,but will ask on local forum.Has anyones dog on this forum actually had adverse reactions to it. Skip goes into kennels when we visit our daughter abroad,so like others,he has to be vaccinated.Being stuck between a rock and a hard place isn't in it,aaargh! Well put it this way....I don't vaccinate my own dogs anymore. Its not just the adverse reactions to vaccines that concern me, but also the chronic, long-term problems they have been associated with.
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Post by smilesbetter on Feb 17, 2016 12:27:00 GMT
I wish I could do the same gypsy ! I can with Mieze but Rosa has to keep her pet passport up to date so it means she needs to get hers currently every year sadly.
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Post by migsy on Feb 17, 2016 15:07:20 GMT
What a flipping nightmare!why don't these companies leave well alone?grr. The good thing is no one on my local forum has said their dog has had awful reactions to their boosters,so everything crossed.I have never even used flea treatments on any of my dogs,and stopped using tick treatment a couple of years ago because that was changed and someone warned it had become risky.I spray apple cider vinegar on Skip before walks in the woods now.I do remember the sheer panic when Parvo Virus first raised it's ugly head though,so know the dangers of that,especially with living in a town which gets lots of visitors with dogs from other areas of the country.
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Post by caz2golden on Feb 17, 2016 22:41:13 GMT
migsy better take a holiday down where my mums vet is I think they are still L2!
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Post by alfiemummy on Feb 18, 2016 16:54:35 GMT
Alfie had his booster today, my vet is currently still using L2
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Post by barley on Feb 21, 2016 11:00:24 GMT
I wish I could do the same gypsy ! I can with Mieze but Rosa has to keep her pet passport up to date so it means she needs to get hers currently every year sadly. She only needs the rabies vacc! And rabies vaccs are usually valid for three years anyway....
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Post by smilesbetter on Feb 21, 2016 11:27:56 GMT
Really? My vet says it's all the vaccinations but especially rabies. I'll check with him next time.
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Post by Pawsforthought on Feb 21, 2016 18:49:33 GMT
migsy what you're talking about with regards to collie types is the MDR1 gene mutation that can cause dogs to have severe reactions to certain drugs. Those drugs can include: "Ivermectin (antiparasitic agent)- While the dose of ivermectin used to prevent heartworm infection is SAFE in dogs with the mutation (6 micrograms per kilogram), higher doses, such as those used for treating mange (300-600 micrograms per kilogram) will cause neurological toxicity in dogs that are homozygous for the MDR1 mutation (MDR1 mutant/mutant) and can cause toxicity in dogs that are heterozygous for the mutation (MDR1 mutant/normal). Selamectin, milbemycin, and moxidectin (antaparasitic agents)- Similar to ivermectin, these drugs are safe in dogs with the mutation if used for heartworm prevention at the manufacturer’s recommended dose. Higher doses (generally 10-20 times higher than the heartworm prevention dose) have been documented to cause neurological toxicity in dogs with the MDR1 mutation. Loperamide (ImodiumTM; antidiarrheal agent)- At doses used to treat diarrhea, this drug will cause neurological toxicity in dogs with the MDR1 mutation. This drug should be avoided in all dogs with the MDR1 mutation. Acepromazine (tranquilizer and pre-anesthetic agent)- Based on collaborative research, the VCPL has determined that dose reductions are required for dogs MDR1 mutant/mutant and MDR1 mutant/normal. Butorphanol (analgesic and pre-anesthetic agent)- Dose reduction required for dogs MDR1 mutant/mutant and MDR1 mutant/normal. Chemotherapy Agents (Vincristine, Vinblastine, Doxorubicin, Paclitaxel)- Based on collaborative research, the VCPL has determined that dose reductions are required for dogs MDR1 mutant/mutant and MDR1 mutant/normal in order to avoid SEVERE toxicity." - taken from vcpl.vetmed.wsu.edu/problem-drugsYou can test your dog for the mutation so that you know for sure either way! Some additional helpful info: www.vetstreet.com/dr-marty-becker/multidrug-sensitivity-what-you-need-to-knowThe scary thing is, and that last link makes the incorrect assumption that most herding-type owners are aware of it, most dog owners and some vets have never heard of it and reactions can be fatal or lead to brain damage. I don't know why it isn't something that EVERY breeder, vet and rescue centre HAVE to tell people about.
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Post by smilesbetter on Feb 21, 2016 20:56:14 GMT
Yeah that test is quite cheap, we got it done for Rosa (she doesn't have the issue thankfully) and it's just so nice to know for sure, and if she did have it then we would have known and been able to avoid an issue.
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Post by barley on Feb 23, 2016 18:20:52 GMT
Really? My vet says it's all the vaccinations but especially rabies. I'll check with him next time. No, it's absolutely only the rabies vacc, as I said earlier in thread. For a pet passport, rabies is the only relevant vaccination. The others don't even need to be recorded in there.
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Post by migsy on Feb 24, 2016 15:27:29 GMT
Yippeee!!!!!thank you for all the valuable input.Skip had his booster this afternoon,and the vet gave the option of which vaccination,(I didn't know there was an option at the moment)explaining them both.So we chose to have the Lepto 2 as Skips been fine with that.Phew! what a relief.Apparently the vets website names another website to go on with mapping for areas which have diseases,which could be handy for people having holidays in the u.k.Haven't had chance to look yet but I will.Took Skips muzzle just in case,but managed with bribes and vet really took time to get down and chat to Skip,giving him treats.He gave him more after the injection so there was no hard feeling. P.S.the vets was surprisingly very busy with happy friendly dogs,I commented on that being unusual and the vet laughed,saying,'until they get in here'. It certainly seemed to relax Skip,infact he quite enjoyed it.
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Post by tonib on Feb 24, 2016 19:31:36 GMT
Sounds like you've got a really good vet there migsy. Skip certainly appreciated the new practice
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