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Post by CollieSlave on Jan 10, 2014 16:46:34 GMT
There have been nearly 4,000 views of Bakers Complete Adult food in the last seven days! Why? I hope all those 'Viewers' went away suitably impressed (or disillusioned) by the assessment of the food on the website!
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Post by Avansa on Jan 10, 2014 17:49:06 GMT
Lmao, 0.1%... yet the amount of people I see shoving Bakers into their trolleys at the supermarket... *sigh*
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Post by smokeybear on Jan 10, 2014 21:38:47 GMT
Is there any scientific peer reviewed evidence to prove that Bakers is detrimental to canine health and if so where can I find it?
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Post by CollieSlave on Jan 10, 2014 22:32:52 GMT
Is there any scientific peer reviewed evidence to prove that Bakers is detrimental to canine health and if so where can I find it? I assume that there is no 'peer reviewed evidence'! If there was, I suspect that YOU would know and wouldn't trouble to ask the question!! However, I personally would prefer not to feed a dog of mine on a food with added 'various sugars' and unspecified 'colourants, antioxidants and preservatives'. No doubt you would say that, due to legal requirements, these unspecified ingredients may be legitimately added to dog food, together with the other ingredients which are not detailed to any significant degree! That may be so, but I prefer to know exactly what goes into my dogs' food. I care not a fig that the stuff in Bakers meets legal requirements - I believe it to be over-priced and of poor quality: it is notable that some makers of pet foods provide highly detailed information about the ingredients that go into their products, and do so with pride. One wonders why the makers of Bakers food are so coy about the precise nature of what goes into it: if it is that good, wouldn't they want us to know about it? Call me finicky and fussy but that's just the way I am! |
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Post by scallywag on Jan 10, 2014 22:39:44 GMT
Call me finicky and fussy but that's just the way I am! Not at all finicky, totally agree with you |
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Post by teegiebear on Jan 11, 2014 0:42:47 GMT
Unfortunately it's got great marketing and advertising behind it and so easily available that people will continue to buy unless they research food better
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Post by caz2golden on Jan 11, 2014 7:35:14 GMT
I can remember a long time back going for a health check with a vet nurse with one of my dogs, when I said I was interested in nutrition the first thing she said was 'please dont say you use Bakers, if you do change now'! I can remember laughing at that and saying I already knew how bad it was. She said it made dogs seriously hyperactive etc. Even my vet says its food to 100% avoid!!
legal or not there are a lot of e numbers in that food!
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Post by CollieSlave on Jan 11, 2014 8:27:44 GMT
Is there any scientific peer reviewed evidence to prove that Bakers is detrimental to canine health and if so where can I find it? From the tone of SB's post, is it reasonable to assume that she regards Bakers as, at least, an acceptable dog food? I would think so. But does she, or would she, feed it to her dogs? I think not! She normally feeds raw but does have dried food for use when raw might not be available! Bakers? Not on your life - ORIJEN!! Nuff sed! |
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Post by smokeybear on Jan 11, 2014 8:40:13 GMT
I can remember a long time back going for a health check with a vet nurse with one of my dogs, when I said I was interested in nutrition the first thing she said was 'please dont say you use Bakers, if you do change now'! I can remember laughing at that and saying I already knew how bad it was. She said it made dogs seriously hyperactive etc. Even my vet says its food to 100% avoid!! legal or not there are a lot of e numbers in that food! Ah yes and E numbers are the Devils Spawn are they not? Yet another statement made with no specificity Curcumin (that stuff in Turmeric which is given to dogs and people for joint issues) has an E number Lycopene - the ingredient in tomato which is so good for health has an e number Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) has an e number These three examples demonstrate how evil these things are and need to removed at once right? Sigh. And then of course the vet nurse has had specific training in canine nutrition yes? And has a qualification on the subject and is qualified to advise? As for hyperactivity, another good one, what precisely in the food causes this and how was it diagnosed? I am always amused when in one post people say how little training veterinary profession have in nutrition and yet in another one quote them as a source of knowledge. |
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Post by smokeybear on Jan 11, 2014 8:41:38 GMT
Is there any scientific peer reviewed evidence to prove that Bakers is detrimental to canine health and if so where can I find it? From the tone of SB's post, is it reasonable to assume that she regards Bakers as, at least, an acceptable dog food? I would think so. But does she, or would she, feed it to her dogs? I think not! She normally feeds raw but does have dried food for use when raw might not be available! Bakers? Not on your life - ORIJEN!! Nuff sed! You can infer what you want from my post, nobody has any control of this. My point was that your views are merely uninformed opinion unsubstantiated by any scientific evidence. |
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Post by Roo on Jan 11, 2014 8:52:34 GMT
There are lots of posts on Facebook (that "reliable" source of information!) about Bakers. A lot of people have posted that it is the number one cause of cancer in dogs ... But there doesn't seem to be any evidence for it. I still wouldn't ever feed it though!
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Post by smokeybear on Jan 11, 2014 9:09:24 GMT
I find it is always best to believe anecdotes rather than hard scientific evidence. Look how much harm Andrew Wakefield did with his "alleged" links between vaccination and Autism. If only more people read books like the Invisible Gorilla and actually did not believe everything they read many disasters could be avoided. But hey, since when did most people allow truth to get in the way of a popular opinion?  Millions of people buy the Sun newspaper, does that make it "good"? If you put a bandwagon out, many people are happy to jump on it. |
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Post by petitsfilous on Jan 11, 2014 9:34:08 GMT
Working in pets at home, I have noticed a huge difference in the amount of people that do actually say to me 'Oh, I do know how bad Bakers is', etc etc.
The year before nobody had a clue, so all the posts and word of mouth are working.
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Post by smokeybear on Jan 11, 2014 10:12:49 GMT
You know the old saying A lie goes half way round the world whilst the truth is putting its boots on Unfortunately as we have seen over the years, rumour and scare mongering are very powerful and ruin reputations and lives. |
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Post by petitsfilous on Jan 11, 2014 10:16:20 GMT
SB you're pro Bakers?
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