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Post by bextull on Mar 25, 2013 13:01:28 GMT
It appears as if my new neighbour has gotten himself a dog, or at least there is one staying with him now.
Oscar is obsessed with that side of the garden now! As soon as you let him out he races to the fence and runs up and down sticking his head in between the hedging trying to get a look at the dog. If the dog isn't out then thats all he does and you can get his attention easily but if the dog is there he barks and runs up and down, gets up on his back legs and so on. The barking is his serious bark, not the little whiny on that he usually does when he wants to go out.
He isn't aggressive, he just wants to get at this dog to play and greet and so on as he doesn't meet many dogs but that is not an option here.
Am I right in thinking that this could be barrier frustration? How do I go about solving this issue? At the moment I am keeping him inside and if he does start to bark and run at the fence I just get him and bring him in. Right now doing that isn't a problem, but I'll be back at school in the week after the next and I will have no choice but to leave him outside while we are not at home, so I'd like to sort this issue as quickly as possible.
Although the dog might not be my neighbours so it could be gone in 3 days or 1 week.
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Post by gladys on Mar 25, 2013 13:57:29 GMT
Are you good friends with the neighbor? Could you ask them if its their new dog? If so maybe you could arrange a dog walk together? Might be a good way of the dogs meeting??  |
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Post by Weims on Mar 25, 2013 14:06:41 GMT
I would say the same as Gladys, maybe get the dogs to meet on a walk or something so Oscar can say hello to the dog? I'm not really sure.
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Post by bextull on Mar 25, 2013 15:33:42 GMT
Not friends with him at all.
So no chance of the 2 dogs meeting.
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Post by Jessie99 on Mar 25, 2013 15:51:54 GMT
I was going to suggest the dogs maybe meeting, but obviously not, (unfortunately!)  Every time he goes out in the garden, try going out with him, keeping his focus and doing training with him, playing with him, etc, etc. When he goes to the fence does he sometimes just have a sniff then leave it? Or is it constant barking, running up and down, etc? Do you clicker train? If so, you could use training techniques into training him not to perform this behaviour? For example, what word do you use to tell him no? No? Off? Naughty? Well anyway, use the word that you use to tell Oscar he is doing wrong, and when he stops, call him to you, get him to sit or something in front of you then click and treat. You could do this in steps. This is how I would do it: Step 1: (Imagine Oscar is performing the behaviour you describe and you're in the garden...) Say 'Oscar no' (or whatever command you use) As soon as he stops click and treat/reward with praise, toy, etc, etc. Step 2: Do step 1 but instead of clicking and rewarding as soon as he stops the unnecessary behaviour, call him over, get him to sit, then click and treat. Step 3: Keep repeating this until he learns that if he doesn't perform that behaviour, he will be rewarded with nice things! Hope this helps and good luck! Keep us pupdated!  |
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Post by tillytubbie on Mar 25, 2013 16:34:39 GMT
Block him. Get inbetween him and the fence, grab his collar, put him in a sit and say 'No'. Then call him away and give him something more interesting to do - a bit of training, playing fetch etc.
A neighbour's family member visits often with their dog. This dog and my two get on perfectly when out walking together, but as soon as they get inside - the other dog will really aggressivley bite and growl and try get at them from the otherside of the fence. They say it's because where they live there are no other dogs nextdoor.
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Post by Jessie99 on Mar 25, 2013 16:41:13 GMT
Good idea TT But in my opinion blocking the dog could make the dog feel pressured or insecure/scared and I personally wouldn't want that to happen Sometimes my dogs have a little snap at each other, but only when in the house - this is once in a blue moon though. |
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Post by bextull on Mar 25, 2013 17:07:33 GMT
Blocking or catching him isn't an option, you have no idea how big my garden is and how fast this little bugger can be when he wants something.
I do clicker train, but the problem with using the clicker and toys and treats is that the behaviour I want might become dependent on me being there with him. I will give it a try and see how it goes though, I suppose something is better than nothing.
He has never shown aggression with any dog he has met before, but plenty have shown it to him. (and then proceed to attack)
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Post by gladys on Mar 25, 2013 19:31:44 GMT
Could you take him out on a lead and get him to ignore the dog and treat that way??
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Post by BorderTerrier on Mar 25, 2013 20:02:12 GMT
I agree with gladys!  You might as well make the dogs friendly! It's then nice very time you may pass each other on a walk, and everything can be positive? If you can't, treat him for walking calmly past the other dog, like gladys said. Make the treats hard to ignore, so he won't ignore them and pay more attention to the other doh when you don't want him too. |
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Post by bextull on Mar 25, 2013 20:12:22 GMT
He only does this in the garden.
This other dog has yet to leave its garden, and I very much doubt that I will be meeting it on a walk.
He only barks at the fence and only when the other dog is there, or has just walked away. The other dog looks like an old dog and does nothing himself.
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Post by gladys on Mar 25, 2013 20:53:07 GMT
Sorry I meant out in your garden. |
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Post by bextull on Mar 26, 2013 19:42:56 GMT
Well I got working on this issue properly today. I decided not to use a lead or the clicker, instead I just rewarded him for staying away from the fence and coming away from the fence and for looking away from the other dog. Seemed to work while I was out there, when I wasn't he would bark at the other dog, but he did look back to the window every now and then and I can only assume that its to look for me. So tomorrow if he does it while I am inside I will hide some food about the garden and maybe a kong to see if that can redirect his attention. The dog looks as if its going to be a permanent resident, but it couldn't be fussed with Oscar, just sits there and watches. He is nothing like the 2 dogs that lived there with my old neighbours, Oscar and Waggs would race up and down the garden, one on each side of the fence. They did it when we came back from walks in the field too, Waggs at the back fence of the garden and Oscar on the field side. Was hilarious to watch!  |
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Post by bextull on Mar 30, 2013 23:18:02 GMT
I finally got talking to the new neighbour!!! Turns out the dog is a friends and he is minding it, but its gone missing!!!  I'm not sure if its been found yet but he has been searching for it since thursday! Dad went out looking and we searched all the fields we walk in to no avail. I certainly hope its found, Puffy is its name. He said he will be getting falcons!!!! He is a fully trained falcon trainer and said that I am more than welcome to visit anytime when he gets them. He also plans on getting a gundog too (aparently its his dream to live in the county and get a dog) and he said he would love to go hunting with the birds and the dog!!! |
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Post by orpheous87 on Mar 31, 2013 21:38:51 GMT
Sounds like your new neighbour is decent!
Hope he finds the dog soon though!! Has he registered it with DogLost?
Wow, it sounds like he's going to be fun to live next door to!
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I'm not sure if its been found yet but he has been searching for it since thursday! Dad went out looking and we searched all the fields we walk in to no avail. I certainly hope its found, Puffy is its name.
