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Post by orpheous87 on Mar 18, 2018 20:54:31 GMT
Aw, bless them both. I'm sure Riley will get used to her in time, but I'd definitely give him chance to escape from her. What kind of crate do you have? A metal one or one that has closed sides (like an airline carrier)? I'm just thinking she might be better if the crate isn't too closed in and she can still see you etc.
Of course, if the crate you have allows this already then ignore me! I haven't had to introduce a puppy to any of my dogs so I'm only talking about what I plan to do in future. I'm planning on getting a pen to put my next pup in so that it can spend time on it's own but also still see us and the dogs, but won't necessarily be interacting with them. But at the same time, this might not work and I'll have to rethink.
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Post by tonib on Mar 18, 2018 22:44:26 GMT
Elsa looks great chantel, no wonder you;re glad to have her at lasst. Riley looks really interested in what you're carrying in those photos, I'm sure he'll get used to having a puppy around, just taking time, its very early days. Can't blame him really, who wants to be chased all the time by a boisterous creature you don't want to hurt, but I'm sure you'll get it sorted out.
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Post by lovemycats on Mar 19, 2018 6:07:48 GMT
Chantel, Riley is extraordinarily beautiful !!! How long have you been been having him now? I’m jealous haha I have been having cats all my life but I enjoy dogs as well. Riley is definitely a keeper that is for sure! So you’ve been having snow there? I haven’t really seen snow in very long time now, however it doesn’t snow very often here due to the area in which I live. I am originally from New Orleans, Louisiana. I am very close to the Gulf of Mexico. Most of the time we don’t see snow, although I have seen quite a bit of it in my lifetime. Do you see snow quite often there where you are? OK dear until next time, please take care of yourself and take care of your beautiful dog Riley! Hugs, Nettie P.S. I don’t know if these pictures are going to do much good or not but I did my best because I’m having problems with the Tapatalk system right now. It’s not a current picture but it’s the closest I could find. I don’t usually send my out my picture, but here it is. I don’t wear my hair as big as you see there in the picture. It’s not current, but it’s close. The last picture you see is of my nephew. It was a year ago today, he was killed in an automobile accident. I’m still having a very hard time with this. He was a high school teacher and a songwriter as well. I cry every day because I miss him so much. His ashes were strewn across Mount Elbert in the state of Colorado. www.summitpost.org/mount-elbert/150325If you go to the link above, you will see beaver Lake. This is the actual picture I see when I turn on my PC. If you click on the link below, you will be able to hear the last song he ever recorded. www.jam-community.com/song/2f7954d6-c9cb-11e6-9f28-02fe9cf35e65I hope you enjoy it!
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Post by chantel on Mar 19, 2018 8:08:09 GMT
Aw, bless them both. I'm sure Riley will get used to her in time, but I'd definitely give him chance to escape from her. What kind of crate do you have? A metal one or one that has closed sides (like an airline carrier)? I'm just thinking she might be better if the crate isn't too closed in and she can still see you etc. Of course, if the crate you have allows this already then ignore me! I haven't had to introduce a puppy to any of my dogs so I'm only talking about what I plan to do in future. I'm planning on getting a pen to put my next pup in so that it can spend time on it's own but also still see us and the dogs, but won't necessarily be interacting with them. But at the same time, this might not work and I'll have to rethink. Well I have got a metal crate with a side door and a front door , I have popped her vet bed and her toys and her food in but left the door open for her to wonder in and out until she gets a little used to it. She doesn’t seem to like it once the door is closed . I’m going to try today and keep popping her in to give Riley a bit of a break 😊 I mainly bought the crate so I could leave her in it for short bursts whilst I get dressed and get jobs done and I know she is safe from Riley and Freddy.
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Post by chantel on Mar 19, 2018 8:19:00 GMT
First night not as bad as I thought it would be . I left her in the kitchen last night to give Riley a break . She screamed for a short while but then seemed to go quiet. We heard her a couple of times during the night time but I just left her . And I got up about 5:30 😊 She doesn’t seem to like been shut away ☹️And when she starts crying Riley gets quite anxious. But Riley definitely needs time on his own .
Poor Freddy had his breakfast upstairs this morning she just wouldn’t leave him alone and he was getting annoyed with her ☹️ Just hoping Riley gets used to her in time .
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Post by lotsofcats on Mar 19, 2018 9:37:52 GMT
First night not as bad as I thought it would be . I left her in the kitchen last night to give Riley a break . She screamed for a short while but then seemed to go quiet. We heard her a couple of times during the night time but I just left her . And I got up about 5:30 😊 She doesn’t seem to like been shut away ☹️And when she starts crying Riley gets quite anxious. But Riley definitely needs time on his own . Poor Freddy had his breakfast upstairs this morning she just wouldn’t leave him alone and he was getting annoyed with her ☹️ Just hoping Riley gets used to her in time . Could have been worse. I think you did the right thing by leaving Elsa when you heard her in the night - must have been hard to do though! Poor Riley, it will take time.
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Post by spider on Mar 19, 2018 9:55:46 GMT
Love the puppy and i would think like cats it takes time to bond with a new dog and all a puppy wants to do is play but in a month these will be best of buds good luck with puppy
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Post by chantel on Mar 19, 2018 10:32:03 GMT
First night not as bad as I thought it would be . I left her in the kitchen last night to give Riley a break . She screamed for a short while but then seemed to go quiet. We heard her a couple of times during the night time but I just left her . And I got up about 5:30 😊 She doesn’t seem to like been shut away ☹️And when she starts crying Riley gets quite anxious. But Riley definitely needs time on his own . Poor Freddy had his breakfast upstairs this morning she just wouldn’t leave him alone and he was getting annoyed with her ☹️ Just hoping Riley gets used to her in time . Could have been worse. I think you did the right thing by leaving Elsa when you heard her in the night - must have been hard to do though! Poor Riley, it will take time. It’s a hard life 😊
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Post by scallywag on Mar 19, 2018 12:19:33 GMT
Could have been worse. I think you did the right thing by leaving Elsa when you heard her in the night - must have been hard to do though! Poor Riley, it will take time. It’s a hard life 😊 Oh my how adorable , what a lovely post to gteet me , I just logged on and now hoping to catch up with everything BIG CONGRATULATIONS XXX
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Post by tonib on Mar 19, 2018 13:16:42 GMT
At least Riley has confirmed Elsa's relative place in the sofa hierarchy! Lovely, peaceful picture chantel. I suspect just a question of time for all 3 to get used to each other PS. I notice you've changed your profile "pets I own" to include Elsa, now just the signature
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Post by bextull on Mar 19, 2018 13:54:21 GMT
First night not as bad as I thought it would be . I left her in the kitchen last night to give Riley a break . She screamed for a short while but then seemed to go quiet. We heard her a couple of times during the night time but I just left her . And I got up about 5:30 😊 She doesn’t seem to like been shut away ☹️And when she starts crying Riley gets quite anxious. But Riley definitely needs time on his own . Poor Freddy had his breakfast upstairs this morning she just wouldn’t leave him alone and he was getting annoyed with her ☹️ Just hoping Riley gets used to her in time . Congrats on the new addition chantel, she's certainly very cute! I don't know if you're on facebook but if you are then theres an amazing group called "Dog training Advice and Support" which is managed by certified dog trainers. They've got all kinds of helpful files about raising puppies, including dog introductions, crate training and toilet training. It's a public group so even if you aren't a member you can still look at their files and read the posts on the page. I'd really encourage anybody with a dog to join because it's just such a helpful page and very interesting to read some of the posts and replies on it too even if you train dogs yourself. *I could go on to say a bit more but I'm running late for work however it's all covered in the facebook group I mentioned
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Post by chantel on Mar 19, 2018 17:57:18 GMT
First night not as bad as I thought it would be . I left her in the kitchen last night to give Riley a break . She screamed for a short while but then seemed to go quiet. We heard her a couple of times during the night time but I just left her . And I got up about 5:30 😊 She doesn’t seem to like been shut away ☹️And when she starts crying Riley gets quite anxious. But Riley definitely needs time on his own . Poor Freddy had his breakfast upstairs this morning she just wouldn’t leave him alone and he was getting annoyed with her ☹️ Just hoping Riley gets used to her in time . Congrats on the new addition chantel, she's certainly very cute! I don't know if you're on facebook but if you are then theres an amazing group called "Dog training Advice and Support" which is managed by certified dog trainers. They've got all kinds of helpful files about raising puppies, including dog introductions, crate training and toilet training. It's a public group so even if you aren't a member you can still look at their files and read the posts on the page. I'd really encourage anybody with a dog to join because it's just such a helpful page and very interesting to read some of the posts and replies on it too even if you train dogs yourself. *I could go on to say a bit more but I'm running late for work however it's all covered in the facebook group I mentioned bextull I will definitely look at that group for advice any advice and support is very much appreciated, i’m struggling with Riley at the moment ☹️ Elsa is just a normal puppy but Riley has a lot of anxiety issues, really hoping we can get past it , thanks again x
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Post by bextull on Mar 19, 2018 20:07:16 GMT
bextull I will definitely look at that group for advice any advice and support is very much appreciated, i’m struggling with Riley at the moment ☹️ Elsa is just a normal puppy but Riley has a lot of anxiety issues, really hoping we can get past it , thanks again x Finally finished work (so much for an "early bank holiday finish"), so I'll just add in what I wanted to say earlier and hopefully you might find it helpful. First impressions are very important for dogs which is why I usually recommend that owners wait until they've had their new dog/puppy for at least a week before allowing them to physically interact with each other. They'll still be allowed to see and smell each other, but only through barriers (baby gates/fences). Then, once you've bonded with the newcomer and both dogs have settled into their new routines, you can allow both of them to finally meet each other properly in an open space and off lead (on lead greetings are very restricting and can cause frustration). The best outcome is that they sniff each other, maybe have a little play but then ultimately ignore each other. I worked with one owner who kept her dogs separated at home for 4 weeks (each dog had it's own area of the house). After the 1st week she did the first meeting in a local park but as soon as she returned home the dogs were separated again but every day after that the dogs got to "meet" again in new locations. Only when they were out of the house were they allowed to mix but as the 4 weeks went on they spent more and more time together out of the house so when it came to having them having free range of the house together they were completely comfortable with each other. I'd definitely suggest keeping Riley and Elsa separated for the time being until everybody has gotten used to the situation. As Elsa doesn't like the crate currently would it be possible to throw together some kind of play pen? With a bit of chicken wire or anything you might have lying around in the shed? It's obviously important for Elsa to be able to have some freedom also so keeping her in the crate all the time isn't ideal either. Keeping them separate isn't just for Riley as you don't want Elsa becoming magnetised to him either (very common for a 2 month old pup who's just left her litter to "stick" to the next dog she meets). As for the crying at night, while I know that it's commonly said to just leave them "cry it out" but that really isn't helpful in the long run (especially if it's making Riley anxious too). Dogs don't cry for no reason and while people may believe that leaving them to scream the place down will teach them to "be okay alone", this isn't the case. I'd definitely suggest sleeping down with her for the first few nights or letting her sleep up in the room with you (in the crate, on the bed, on the floor, where ever NOTE: This doesn't have to be a permanent change). This way you'll be able to hear her if she gets up and needs to go out to the toilet and she wont feel so afraid. I've completely lost my train of thought now but I hope that some of that is useful/makes sense for you. I really would strongly recommend that you keep both of them separate for the time being though, give them both time to settle into this new reality.
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Post by chantel on Mar 19, 2018 21:10:39 GMT
Thank you for your advice it is very much appreciated 😊
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Post by orpheous87 on Mar 19, 2018 23:14:04 GMT
Aw, bless them both. I'm sure Riley will get used to her in time, but I'd definitely give him chance to escape from her. What kind of crate do you have? A metal one or one that has closed sides (like an airline carrier)? I'm just thinking she might be better if the crate isn't too closed in and she can still see you etc. Of course, if the crate you have allows this already then ignore me! I haven't had to introduce a puppy to any of my dogs so I'm only talking about what I plan to do in future. I'm planning on getting a pen to put my next pup in so that it can spend time on it's own but also still see us and the dogs, but won't necessarily be interacting with them. But at the same time, this might not work and I'll have to rethink. Well I have got a metal crate with a side door and a front door , I have popped her vet bed and her toys and her food in but left the door open for her to wonder in and out until she gets a little used to it. She doesn’t seem to like it once the door is closed . I’m going to try today and keep popping her in to give Riley a bit of a break 😊 I mainly bought the crate so I could leave her in it for short bursts whilst I get dressed and get jobs done and I know she is safe from Riley and Freddy. No, a lot of dogs don't seem to like it once the door is closed unless they're fully conditioned to it. Susan Garrett has a DVD called crate games, which I imagine would help, but I don't know if there's a free version anywhere. However, there are lots of crate training videos on Youtube so definitely have a look on there as well as the group that bextull recommended. I would also recommend the Absolute Dogs facebook page as they have a lot of puppy based videos. If I could love bextull's post, I would. Everything she's mentioned is along the lines of what I plan to do with my next puppy i.e. keep him/her separated from the big dogs for a while at first. Not sure how it'll work with other people in the house, but it's in my plans. Absolute Dogs recommend keeping the dogs separated for a while too - in fact I think they've done it for even longer than 4 weeks. I second the pen idea as well. It'll give Elsa a bit more space than a crate, plus it's not as closed in so she may feel a bit happier about being in there. You can even put her crate in there for a bit of privacy if she chooses.
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