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Post by CollieSlave on May 9, 2013 11:58:15 GMT
I've just received an order from Berriewoods and they included a sample of Green Dog Food's Trout, Salmon & Vegetables. The spiel on the packet claims, amongst other things, "Natural Control of worms, fleas & ticks"!! This is quite some claim and, being a cynic, I would take a hell of a lot of convincing that this could be true to any significant extent. Which Dog Food? lists the Green Dog Adult - ingredients "Dry turkey (25.5%), whole white rice, vegetables & herbs (15%), whole brown rice (14%), etc." That is a hell of a lot of rice!! Also on the Which Dog Food site is the Trout, Salmon and Veg of which I have a sample. The rice is gone, to be replaced with potato in various guises and this stuff sounds quite reasonable - if you like that sort of thing. This comes in 2Kg bags at about £10. The rice-ridden adult dog is 12kg for £42. ( www.whichdogfood.co.uk/ ). The Green Dog Food website is very decorative and gives the impression of real, green, country bods making this super Green Dog Food out in the sticks but the firm is actually owned by Naturevito ("wholesale grain, seeds & animal feeds") of Swaffham. You might like to have a look www.greendogfood.co.uk/ As well as the rustic, green workforce they sling in a bit of High Tech stuff via their, I quote, 'Green Man', Keith Allison MA FRSM who has a formidable pedigree and is the 'expert' behind their recipes. (Testing the link to Green Dog Foods, the link takes you to the homepage but says 'Not Found' - ignore this and click on the various 'signs' (you'll see what I mean by this ) and topics - they all work!)
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Post by puppypal on May 9, 2013 15:49:18 GMT
Barley has had a bag of this before as we won it a a dog show, it is a very dry kibble and has a herby smell to it, he ate it but did not really like it or hate it, his stools were ok, was impressed with it as it is quite natural and healthy, he has had the lamb and turkey but would not touch the salmon one as we got a sample of that the other day
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Post by caz2golden on May 9, 2013 21:04:34 GMT
Out of the words of babes, or should I say their own website
Q: How can Green Dog products help against parasites?
A: Green Dog products are based on the concept of Holistic Nutrition which reflects the natural diet of the dog. This supports the immune system, promoting digestive vitality through maintenance of digestive flora, and enabling the system to cleanse and detoxify itself.
I am a total skeptic too, I think in reality it claims to be a good food and good food usually lowers risk from parasites anyway!!
I don't personally see anything obvious which equals obvious ingredient that keeps the parasites away!! Maybe the herb mix! Maybe I am blind, can anyone see what it is? Trout 27%, Salmon 23%, Pea 19%, Sweet Potato 10%, Potato 8%, Lentils & Herbs 7%, Potato starch, Linseed, Carrot, Tomato, Spinach, Cranberry, Salmon Oil.
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karin
Settling in well!
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Animals I love: Manatees, tortoies, fish and dogs
Pets I own: Cockapoo - Bindi
Tortoises x 3 - Spartacus, Henry and Hanje
Tropical fish x 50+
an adopted Manatee called Whiskers who lives in Florida
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Post by karin on May 10, 2013 20:01:10 GMT
Hi, I have researched this product and bought for my puppy. I needed convincing so emailed my questions, I am very impressed so far. Yes it's the herb mix that does the work. He is a quote from my email
Green Dog is different to any other product, our main usp is the fact we’re the only complete foods who do not add synthetic vitamins and minerals (e-numbers). These are always clearly labelled on pet food under ingredients in the nutritional additives.
You will notice when vitamins are labelled individually followed by a number e.g. 18,000 iu/kg (international units). This includes all the natural and holistic labelled food products on the market.
Obviously it’s your opinion on e-numbers that matters.
The reason we do not add synthetics to our foods is to do with our herbs, our nutritionist/co-founder of Green Dog; Keith Allison MA FRSM was a specialist in bio-activity of herbs and grasses, and worked with VEERU at Reading University and for some time have been research and developing herbal parasite preventatives. This is the other unique thing about us, our herbs are rich in naturally occurring, viable source of whole vitamins and minerals, the benefit of this is that they can be much easier utilised by the body and of course, chemical free. The benefits also lie with helping to keep the immune system working at optimum, parasites stimulate the immune system which will help build up the inner defence which is key to preventing them.
Below is the ingredient matrix for our Grain free Trout, Salmon & Veg and underneath the Puppy Turkey & Rice
Trout - 27% (dehydrated)
Salmon – 23% (14% fresh, 9% dehydrated)
Pea Starch – 19%
Sweet Potato - 10%
Potato - 8%
Potato starch – 4%
Green Dog Premix 3.8% (herbal nutrients mix)
Linseed – 3%
Lentils - 1%
Salmon Oil – 1%
Carrot – 0.05%
Tomato - 0.05%
Spinach - 0.05%
Cranberry - 0.05%
Puppy Turkey & Rice:
Dehydrated Turkey 31%
White Rice – 26%
Brown Rice – 6.%
Oats – 10%
Barley – 13%
Linseed – 5%
Green Dog Herbal premix – 5%
Turkey fat – 4%
Sorry if that was too much info
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Post by caz2golden on May 10, 2013 20:44:13 GMT
I wonder how they don't have to add vitamins etc when all the other companies do!! My limited understanding is that all dry food is made by cooking at high temperatures which destroys many vitamins etc hence why others add them so it has nutritional value!! Please someone correct me where I have fallen foul of my limited understanding
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Post by BorderTerrier on May 19, 2013 11:27:04 GMT
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Post by caz2golden on May 19, 2013 20:44:19 GMT
Its been about since 2008 so not that new!
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Post by CollieSlave on May 20, 2013 11:17:28 GMT
Green Dog is different to any other product, our main usp is the fact we’re the only complete foods who do not add synthetic vitamins and minerals (e-numbers). These are always clearly labelled on pet food under ingredients in the nutritional additives.
I think this is a bit questionable - not to say downright inaccurate!
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Post by caz2golden on May 20, 2013 18:58:35 GMT
Green Dog is different to any other product, our main usp is the fact we’re the only complete foods who do not add synthetic vitamins and minerals (e-numbers). These are always clearly labelled on pet food under ingredients in the nutritional additives.
I think this is a bit questionable - not to say downright inaccurate! Being thick CS, why is their claim inaccurate? Must be missing something!! I put my thoughts a couple of posts back which is my general understanding of dry foods!!
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Post by CollieSlave on May 21, 2013 6:59:45 GMT
I can see one e-number in Applaws (E1705) but, unless I am misreading things, foods like Acana and Orijen or Simpson's Premium 80/20 appear not to have synthetic vitamins and minerals added. Eden has additives listed ("Nutritional Additives: vitamins: Vitamin A (as Retinyl Acetate) 14,425 Iu/kg, Vitamin D3 (as Cholecalciferol) 2,160 Iu/kg, Vitamin E (as Tocopherol Acetate) 95 Mg/kg.") but is this so bad? Whether these Eden additives ARE e-numbers I do not know! Green Dog Food seem to make a virtue out of their lack of additives but I would have thought that the additives listed for, say, Eden are there because they are regarded, by the makers, as an important aspect of nutrition. And in what respects are the additives (again, say those used by Eden) bad? I wonder if Green's claims are spurious and not significant! Could it not be argued that Green Dog Food lacks important additives? "Additives" as such seem to have acquired a bad name, perhaps because of the likes of Bakers and damaging additives in human foods but I am unsure that ALL additives should be regarded as bad.
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Post by CollieSlave on May 21, 2013 7:33:35 GMT
Just a further thought!
When do Additives (dirty word) become Supplements (clean word)??
Is a Supplement ever an Additive? Or an Additive a Supplement?
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Post by caz2golden on May 21, 2013 19:46:36 GMT
(rofl)Thanks CS Perfect replies as always. Thanks for replying I agree as dry food tends to be super cooked then it looses important vitamins etc so the 'additives' are then surely important to make the food complete and keep our dogs healthy. I dont see adding vitamins as bad!! Perhaps I am too trusting!!
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Post by BorderTerrier on May 24, 2013 18:26:12 GMT
Its been about since 2008 so not that new! I've only just seen and heard of the brand!
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Post by BorderTerrier on May 24, 2013 18:27:51 GMT
Hi, I have researched this product and bought for my puppy. I needed convincing so emailed my questions, I am very impressed so far. Yes it's the herb mix that does the work. He is a quote from my email Green Dog is different to any other product, our main usp is the fact we’re the only complete foods who do not add synthetic vitamins and minerals (e-numbers). These are always clearly labelled on pet food under ingredients in the nutritional additives.
You will notice when vitamins are labelled individually followed by a number e.g. 18,000 iu/kg (international units). This includes all the natural and holistic labelled food products on the market.
Obviously it’s your opinion on e-numbers that matters.
The reason we do not add synthetics to our foods is to do with our herbs, our nutritionist/co-founder of Green Dog; Keith Allison MA FRSM was a specialist in bio-activity of herbs and grasses, and worked with VEERU at Reading University and for some time have been research and developing herbal parasite preventatives. This is the other unique thing about us, our herbs are rich in naturally occurring, viable source of whole vitamins and minerals, the benefit of this is that they can be much easier utilised by the body and of course, chemical free. The benefits also lie with helping to keep the immune system working at optimum, parasites stimulate the immune system which will help build up the inner defence which is key to preventing them.Below is the ingredient matrix for our Grain free Trout, Salmon & Veg and underneath the Puppy Turkey & Rice
Trout - 27% (dehydrated)
Salmon – 23% (14% fresh, 9% dehydrated)
Pea Starch – 19%
Sweet Potato - 10%
Potato - 8%
Potato starch – 4%
Green Dog Premix 3.8% (herbal nutrients mix)
Linseed – 3%
Lentils - 1%
Salmon Oil – 1%
Carrot – 0.05%
Tomato - 0.05%
Spinach - 0.05%
Cranberry - 0.05%
Puppy Turkey & Rice:
Dehydrated Turkey 31%
White Rice – 26%
Brown Rice – 6.%
Oats – 10%
Barley – 13%
Linseed – 5%
Green Dog Herbal premix – 5%
Turkey fat – 4%
Sorry if that was too much info
No no, please understand that on a forum, you can't have too much good info. Thanks!
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