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Post by smilesbetter on Jun 5, 2014 9:56:06 GMT
So Rosas doing great and when I leave her alone she only barks when she can hear voices/dogs nearby outside the room she's in (so in mine or neighbours garden, or in the house away from her, or if the TV in the living room is on...). However yesterday when I was in the next room having a bath, she only barked three times, just after mum had come upstairs and shouted to ask me something. I actually thought how good she was at being left on her own.
When I went into my room, ignoring her at first as usual, everything looked normal and I was delighted. Until I noticed that she'd been on my bed and destroyed mums iPad cover! Now after her rewarding experience, every time I leave the room she is straight up on my bed, but always gets off before I get back into the room. I've noticed that often my iPad cover gets little wet marks which means she's been trying to chew it too, or preparing to (she likes to lick things first).
She's got plenty fun, chewable and even squeaky toys to play with. Sometimes she throws her toys and jumps on furniture to retrieve them but not often and I've been trying to teach her that if she throws a toy on something then she has to wait for me to give it back.
So is there any way to teach her to stay off furniture? She rarely goes on it when I'm in the room and seems to be well aware that she's not allowed up, but the experience of being up on furniture and chewing stuff that isn't hers is super rewarding in itself for her.
I have a rule of no dogs on furniture ever, and Rosa is a particular pig (she was soaking wet when she did it last night) so definitely no special treatment for her.
She's only had a few chances to do this behaviour so far but I fear that after the iPad incident it has become a habit, as she's had such a big "reward" for it.
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Post by lotsofcats on Jun 5, 2014 10:22:06 GMT
Hmmm, sounds like she was doing so well before the ipad cover incident. If you can see she has been on the bed when you go into the room, ask her and the tell her off and say she musn't go on there - she obviously knows she shouldn't, but probably thinks that by getting off there before you go in the room, you won't know!
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Post by tonib on Jun 5, 2014 11:59:15 GMT
May sound a bit silly but is it worth making sure there's nothing on the bed/chair so Rosa's not attracted to it & hence no need to get on the furniture? It can be a pain to always remember but it might nip a new habit in the bud.
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Post by caz2golden on Jun 5, 2014 12:07:36 GMT
Sorry I never succeeded with that one!
It may be a case that temporarily you have to leave her somewhere where there is no furniture to climb on.
Continue with your no furniture rule when you are about and once it seems ingrained when you are in house and in other rooms in the house then try it when you leave her again.
Alternatively put things on the furniture that prevent her getting onto it in your absence, such as trays on sofa etc
You could leave a worn old (one you dont really want) T shirt that you have recently worn in her bed to encourage her to use her bed when you are out.
Sounds like the I pad needs to be put well out of reach! Its probably cos it smells of you and she is finding an object that reminds her of you in your absence.
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Post by scallywag on Jun 5, 2014 12:23:03 GMT
Trouble is you have to catch her on the bed, to be able to tell her NO, no point shutting the gate after the horse has bolted, she wont understand. Even if you have her up occasionally then that's gotta stop smilesbetter or she wont know the difference. All or Nothing. Beau gets ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LOL but he does know he is only allowed on the one couch with the throw on, he never goes onto the other one x Good Luck x |
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Post by alfiemummy on Jun 5, 2014 14:47:25 GMT
This is going to be really vague as I can't really remember what it was or where I saw it so I apologise in advance  Someone had a problem with the dog jumping on the furniture, they set a sort of 'trap' where if the dog jumped up onto the furniture there was something up there that would move or make a noise to scare them off it again. Which was handy for when you're not there as you don't need to see them doing it. I can't think what you could use though! |
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Post by caz2golden on Jun 5, 2014 17:24:49 GMT
Trouble is you have to catch her on the bed, to be able to tell her NO, no point shutting the gate after the horse has bolted, she wont understand. Even if you have her up occasionally then that's gotta stop smilesbetter or she wont know the difference. All or Nothing. Beau gets ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LOL but he does know he is only allowed on the one couch with the throw on, he never goes onto the other one x Good Luck x At my mums my dogs know not a foot on any furniture, as you say they are never allowed up and its not allowed. At mine its a free for all and freedom is allowed. Mums dog comes here and the first thing she does is curl up on the sofa! Its very funny! The dogs seem to automatically know the rules in each house! |
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Post by smilesbetter on Jun 5, 2014 19:43:49 GMT
Thanks for the replies guys! Rosa is never allowed on the furniture at all so it's no that, she's not even allowed a paw on (although as she usually has a toy in mouth and drops it when I say "off", I'm not sure she's got the message with the paws). She has never been on furniture other than a few times where she's jamp up in hysterical excitement (when she's racing round like a maniac. She always looks confused when she stops and realises she's on furniture in these cases) and the times when I'm out the room. The "trap" idea sounds good. My mum says there's blankets you can get that scream when a something touches them (could possibly record me saying "off" or the loud "EH!" She gets when she's really doing something bad), but I do think she's too intelligent for it and would figure out quickly where the noise is from and decide the blanket is another fun toy. Either that or it would petrify her and I don't want to use scare tactics. I'd also thought of setting up a speaker and camera in the room, and going out of the room and waiting till she gets on the bed and telling her "off" while she's mid jump. Is that too much? Am I a psycho owner?  I just don't want her getting onto mine or other people's' furniture, and the furniture is a safe place for cats and objects! Good point on removing the objects and putting up a sort of blockade. My bed is quite high (it pulls out to be a wonky, quite scary due to broken slats double bed), and I'm using a double blanket folded over, so if I put a couple of plastic box lids on top then it might put her off trying, be uncomfortable to lie on and have less chance of an accident than other blockades might (although they might slip off when she jumps up). Hope these work! |
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Post by zahada on Jun 5, 2014 19:47:43 GMT
Buy her an Orvis bed.
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Post by scallywag on Jun 5, 2014 19:49:39 GMT
sorry did I read this right ? you will buy her an Orvis bed ? that's very generous of you zahada take it you were the winner of the Euro Millions then last weekend ?  |
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Post by zahada on Jun 5, 2014 19:58:28 GMT
I deliberately put wrong numbers on last Tuesday so it rolls over and I'll win 85 million tomorrow. And you can all have Orvis beds (the dogs as well).
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Post by zahada on Jun 5, 2014 20:09:15 GMT
I would close the bedroom door or put a little squirt of citronella on the bed. In the living room I would try tin foil on the settee. Might work few times then she might learn to pull it off.
I might invest in some surveillance equipment and through the speaker ask her off the furniture if she understands the command. Or try to catch her before she jumps on.
Check out dog monitor on ww.tappytaps.com if you have iPhone/iPad. Or Google Motorola Scout WiFi camera.
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Post by alfiemummy on Jun 5, 2014 20:44:09 GMT
Could you maybe hide outside the door and try to hear if she's jumped up? I can do this with Alfie, he is allowed on my bed but not at night. If I am getting ready in the bathroom I can hear him - although I do have laminate flooring in my room. If I hear him clicking along and then jump I'll shout 'OFF!' from the other room. He must wonder how I saw him as he doesn't do it when I'm there You could be waiting a while with this method though, and obviously it won't be very consistent as you will have to go away some time. |
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Post by migsy on Jun 5, 2014 23:32:34 GMT
All I can think of is a very loud firm OFF! or NO! if Rosa so much as looks as though she may try her luck with any furniture, and make sure nothing is left lying around. She is being absolutely fantastic with everything else with her training. I remember making my children put all their stuff away when we had a new puppy, telling them it would be their own fault if anything got chewed up,guess who left her library book out? ME!!! I had to pay for it so it taught me to practice what I preached,ha ha.Rosa is very intelligent,and will learn what is absolutely out of bounds,the same as they quickly learn what they can get away with if they find the slightest chink of weakness in our resolve.Good luck smilesbetter,you will crack this one.
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Post by smilesbetter on Jun 5, 2014 23:41:21 GMT
Well I tried the box lid thing but stupidly left stuff on my bed. The lids didn't stop her and came back to destroyed new shoes (she's been after them since I got them the other day), a chewed up pencil (apparently they are graphite and harmless to dogs!) and chewed up iPod cables. She of course got no row from me as I didn't catch her in the act, not that she ever gets rows haha.
Will try some more of the ideas listed here and keep you posted! It's frustrating as hard to teach her to be alone when she does this.
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I just don't want her getting onto mine or other people's' furniture, and the furniture is a safe place for cats and objects!
