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Post by belladad on Dec 20, 2013 10:56:28 GMT
Well, here was me thinking that adolescence had passed no problem.  Bella (nearly 17 months - had her 1st season Sept/Oct) appears to be hitting stroppy teenage phase. She has now started the "I'm NOT going to leave the park, I'm going to sit here forever n ever!" - no amount of pulling on her lead will work; so we ignore this politely and offer a gravy bone to 'persuade' her that now might be good time to come home. This is after an hour's running about playing etc. I know that breed etc can have a bearing on when our fur pals become snotty teenagers, but what are others' experiences and "Top Tips"? |
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Post by scallywag on Dec 20, 2013 11:36:18 GMT
Ha ha Beau digs in all the time, but fortunately for me his afternoon walk finishes around 3.30 and I feed him at 4pm so I only have to say those words DINNER and he is ready to return LOL oh and Beau is 6 !! Good luck finding your magic word belladad  |
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Post by zahada on Dec 20, 2013 13:04:35 GMT
I would not take her to familiar places. I would start taking her to new places, keep her on a long lead, not feed her before going, have her favourite treats on me, do a lot of training between short bouts of free time/sniffing. Heelwork is excellent for getting attention - I'm not talking about precise, competitive style heelwork, just - come with me/stay with me, concentrate on what I'm doing type of training. Also play with her on your walks with her favourite toys or games. And also lots of training indoors. Have fun! Adolescence is! That's where we all learn where the boundaries lie.  |
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Post by zahada on Dec 20, 2013 13:07:04 GMT
You could also feed her from food dispensing toys to exhaust her a bit mentally. Join a training class?
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Post by belladad on Dec 20, 2013 16:19:27 GMT
I would not take her to familiar places. I would start taking her to new places, keep her on a long lead, not feed her before going, have her favourite treats on me, do a lot of training between short bouts of free time/sniffing. Heelwork is excellent for getting attention - I'm not talking about precise, competitive style heelwork, just - come with me/stay with me, concentrate on what I'm doing type of training. Also play with her on your walks with her favourite toys or games. And also lots of training indoors. Have fun! Adolescence is! That's where we all learn where the boundaries lie. Yup, today's 'park time' was free-play with other dogs; hide and seek with mum; stop/return n reward on whistle etc. Training indoors is also continued as is 'fun with mum n dad'. Oh and we attend classes every week; she's due to take the KCGC Silver test in January. She'll no doubt push the boundaries just to check we mean it  But most importantly, we are where the Love is (and fish treats!!) |
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Post by loo25 on Dec 20, 2013 18:31:53 GMT
Eddy is a pro at staying on the park, he will even lay down in wet grass which he normally hates, I usually have a really high value treat on me to lure him off.
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Post by BorderTerrier on Dec 22, 2013 18:40:15 GMT
Earl sometimes does that at a certain area on night-time walks in the dark. I think something may have spooked him there before and he doesn't wish to relive that experience by going there again! Don't lure your dog with treats, as that is showing NO aspect of leadership - it is showing you giving in and attempting to lead your dog away in a friendly way. Simply be confident, and give a few tweaks of the lead, saying 'come with me' or 'this way now' etc. She will soon learn she must obey you. She does not quite respect you fully if she is digging her heels in and disobeying you as you try and make her come. Use no harsh or punitive methods, but use correction. I would imagine she just knows when the lead goes back on and you walk away with her, play time is over and the fun STOPS. She won't like this, however, a happy dog who knows their place in the family pack will obey and listen without reluctance. Try and re-establish your place as leader and make her follow. Be nice and assertive towards her. That is what a good leader would do. Earl can be stubborn and push the boundaries, but I never let that slip. I correct the behaviour and use firm commands. Then I praise heavily when the required behaviour is performed by the dog. And to close my rather long opinion off, I doubt she is trying to act like a 'snotty teenager'. She simply is reluctant to stop the fun, and is disappointed by it, therefore attempts to keep her place at the location of fun.
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Post by orpheous87 on Dec 22, 2013 18:48:54 GMT
I don't see anything wrong with using treats to lure Bella, however, I wouldn't feed her behind you i.e. when she catches up. Throw the treat a little way in front to encourage her to go that way, rather than stay on the field.
You could also call her back to you several times, put her on the lead each time for a few minutes or so, then let her off again so that she starts to get the idea that the lead doesn't always mean home time.
Another option could be to put a long line on her so that you can guide her back to you if she insists on running off again.
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Post by SarahHound on Feb 24, 2014 14:23:15 GMT
I don't see anything wrong with using treats to lure Bella, however, I wouldn't feed her behind you i.e. when she catches up. Throw the treat a little way in front to encourage her to go that way, rather than stay on the field. You could also call her back to you several times, put her on the lead each time for a few minutes or so, then let her off again so that she starts to get the idea that the lead doesn't always mean home time. Another option could be to put a long line on her so that you can guide her back to you if she insists on running off again. This is exactly what I was going to suggest so I'm not going to type it again This worked for Katy, and she came out of that phase within a few months. |
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Post by charlottte on Mar 2, 2014 23:30:16 GMT
Is there only one way to leave the park? If not, try going out different ways. Or, mid park visit, put her lead on, jolly her up 'yay, Come on Bella, oooh what's this I've got for you? Come and get it!', walk her out of the park on lead, then walk back onto the park and let her off again for a bit. Or put the lead on, walk her around the park a bit and then let her off again randomly. This way you'll be unpredictable. Sometimes when you put the lead on she goes elsewhere, other times she gets to go back to the park Dogs are brilliant at picking up on subtle cues that signal the end of the good stuff (think of the owner that takes the lead off round their neck and then has trouble getting their dog back on lead as they play keep away) so if you make her think that just because the lead goes on it doesn't always mean that the fun stops (or that she doesn't always leave the park completely) she might stop digging her heels in. At the minute the park = the best thing ever, so why would she want to leave? By the sound of it, the park is even more important than food so employ a bit of Premack Principle. 'You do this for me first, then you get your reward', like telling a child 'eat your veggies then you can have Ice cream'. In Bella's case 'you walk to 'X' with me, then we go back into the park for a bit for a game' I don't believe in all the 'pack theory' stuff, I don't think you have to show your dog you're the boss of them as I don't believe dogs wake up and think 'oh I think I'll try and show dad I'm in charge today by not leaving the park, yeah, that'll tell him!'. Dogs simply do what works for them. But dominance and pack theory is another - very touchy - subject all together |
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Post by smilesbetter on Mar 5, 2014 22:40:36 GMT
I don't see anything wrong with using treats to lure Bella, however, I wouldn't feed her behind you i.e. when she catches up. Throw the treat a little way in front to encourage her to go that way, rather than stay on the field. You could also call her back to you several times, put her on the lead each time for a few minutes or so, then let her off again so that she starts to get the idea that the lead doesn't always mean home time. Another option could be to put a long line on her so that you can guide her back to you if she insists on running off again. This is exactly what I was going to suggest so I'm not going to type it again This worked for Katy, and she came out of that phase within a few months. Haha I was gonna say the same thing about recalling a few times. Great minds think alike (Or fools seldom differ... haha). Let us know how it goes! |
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Post by smilesbetter on Mar 5, 2014 22:45:01 GMT
Also, don't make it obvious that you want to go. If you have a leaving the park routine, change it. Otherwise she pick up your clues that it's time to go and start playing up. And maybe go back to always rewarding her when she comes back to her name for a bit to reinforce that training for a while, make it super fun for her to return to you. She'll be testing the boundaries now and you don't want her finding out that if she stays away from you she gets out longer, better for her to remember that coming back to you is more awesome than playing on her own! |
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Bella (nearly 17 months - had her 1st season Sept/Oct) appears to be hitting stroppy teenage phase. She has now started the "I'm NOT going to leave the park, I'm going to sit here forever n ever!" - no amount of pulling on her lead will work; so we ignore this politely and offer a gravy bone to 'persuade' her that now might be good time to come home. This is after an hour's running about playing etc.
But most importantly, we are where the Love is (and fish treats!!)
