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Post by daves on Nov 20, 2013 21:22:41 GMT
Hi, My mother's 11-yr-old collie has ruptured a cruciate ligament and requires surgery. The vet wants to repair it using wire, but some years ago (another dog) my mother was told that wire is no longer used as it damages other tissue. Has anyone experience or knowledge of this surgery? What are the chances of a successful outcome for an 11-yr-old male dog with thyroid imbalance? What should we expect to pay, and do we pay the same whether successful or unsuccessful? What financial help is available? Any info gratefully received.
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Post by orpheous87 on Nov 20, 2013 22:31:55 GMT
A friend's JRT is currently on restricted exercise as he recovers from an operation to repair his ruptured cruciate ligament! He ruptured his other one a year ago. Unfortunately, I don't know what they actually used to repair the ligaments. I don't think it was wire though - it was possibly some form of rubber band? Recovery has been complete rest for 6 weeks, then 5 minute walks for another month or so. However, as he's a JRT, I imagine this might be different for a Border Collie. As for cost, last year I know it cost £1400, but again, as he's a JRT that could differ for a larger dog. I would guess that you'll be charged whether the operation is successful or not too, as success probably depends on how well you follow the aftercare procedure as laid out by the vet e.g. if you try letting the dog do more exercise than recommended, you risk undoing all the work the vets have done. Financial help, I would say the same as scallywag. Oscar was insured, so luckily my friend hasn't had to pay the whole lot out herself, just the excess. Hopefully someone else will be able to offer more advice
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Post by johnl on Nov 21, 2013 13:48:59 GMT
Contact PDSA, they may be able to help with costs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 18:44:44 GMT
Contact PDSA, they may be able to help with costs. Yes good advice look up your local PDSA and take your dog there. A family member of mine went to them when her dog needed surgery they did it and coz she was not working it was free she just give them 20 pounds donation. I dont know what she had done.
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Post by smokeybear on Nov 21, 2013 23:54:05 GMT
There are half a dozen different methods of tackling CCL Ruptures, not all will suit all dogs and not all can be conducted by all orthopaedic surgeons.
Your best bet for information is the specialists who conduct these as routine
If you are not insured then you will only be able to get the bare minimum from PDSA and RSPCA if you receive certain benefits I am afraid.
Good luck
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 6:59:33 GMT
There are half a dozen different methods of tackling CCL Ruptures, not all will suit all dogs and not all can be conducted by all orthopaedic surgeons. Your best bet for information is the specialists who conduct these as routine If you are not insured then you will only be able to get the bare minimum from PDSA and RSPCA if you receive certain benefits I am afraid. Good luck Bare minimum from PDSA how come my mother in law got her dog seen to for free? mind it was like 8-10 yrs ago
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Post by scallywag on Nov 22, 2013 7:30:18 GMT
Exactly @jmk how things have changed in those 8 -10 years, everything has been cut right back. Good luck daves let us know how you get on
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 7:32:56 GMT
Exactly @jmk how things have changed in those 8 -10 years, everything has been cut right back. Good luck daves let us know how you get on Yeah plus I bet others have been abuseing the system as well
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Post by ginge3 on Dec 5, 2013 15:43:04 GMT
Wire is NOT used in CCL surgery, it sounds like they are suggesting a lateral suture/FTS and there are specific suture materials for this procedure which can take a lot of pressure before they snap. There are varying techniques out there, FTS, TPLO, TTA-R to name but a few. The surgery suggested is usually dog dependant, size of dog and the angle of adjustment to the tibial plateau required. I would suggest you ask the vet how many of these operations they have done and perhaps seek a second opinion. Is there an orthopaedic specialist near you? These surgeries are VERY successful in the right veterinary hands. Price for this operation varies but where I live approx. £2500 plus VAT is an average for one leg.
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Post by BorderTerrier on Dec 17, 2013 18:05:21 GMT
My training instructor's Border Collie has cruciate ligament and is on complete rest. I have no further advice apart from tell your mother to bed rest your dog and keep her vet involved on progress. Must be awful for her, sorry to hear that.
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Post by smokeybear on Dec 18, 2013 0:13:21 GMT
Should you be giving this advice bearing in mind you are neither a vet nor a physio therapist nor have you seen their dog?
In actual fact complete bed rest is normally contra indicated nowadays by progressive specialists to prevent adhesions and muscle wastage.
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