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Post by Jessie99 on Mar 29, 2013 21:05:08 GMT
It sounds good then, I may have to give it a try as Frontline is quite expensive. How is the expense for BNM?
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Post by orpheous87 on Mar 29, 2013 21:15:01 GMT
BNM costs £13.50 for a 300g tub, but the tub lasts a good few months as you only use one scoop per day - at least I do. You might use less as Charlie is a smaller dog than my two.
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Post by caz2golden on Mar 29, 2013 21:21:23 GMT
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Post by orpheous87 on Mar 29, 2013 22:00:47 GMT
I had noticed that Caz! I just couldn't afford to pay £39 when I was ready to order a new tub!
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Post by gladys on Mar 30, 2013 13:40:01 GMT
I treat Cooper and the cats even though none of my pets have fleas but I don't do it as regularly as the packets tell me too. Can I ask a linked question to this please? For the people who don't flea treat - do you still treat for worms? And if so what produces do you use and how often? Also do you treat for lung and heart worm too? Thanks.
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Post by caz2golden on Mar 30, 2013 15:57:04 GMT
Worms I do once every three months (as per the packet guidelines) I do use:- Drontal - which only covers roundworm and tapeworm Milbemax - which covers roundworms, hookworms, whipworms and tapeworms, reduction in the level of one form of lungworm and has something in it towards heartworm too - this is from vet only product
Tried ProWormer on last treatment but wont use that again!! Both dogs just did not seem right after treatment!! A friend swears by Cestem but have not tried that yet. Both of these are similar to Drontal and to be honest would like to cover the lungworm too. Considering using Panacur this year which covers the usual suspects + one form of lungworm. This at least does not have to come from a vets. There is actually more than one form of lungworm!! Only really learnt this recently when answering query on old forum. Angiostrongylus vasorum which is the one everyone seems to know about is the one linked to snails but it is also known as French Heartworm (http://www.vetstream.co.uk/arrowfield/html/Factsheets/Dog/24_287323.asp) Oslerus osleri is another and is actually one of the true lungworms www.vetstream.co.uk/arrowfield/html/Factsheets/Dog/24_287324.asp?id=1) Crenosoma vulpis is also transferred by snails and slugs but also foxes can pick it up and transport about. It is commonly known as fox lungworm (http://www.itsajungle.co.uk/parasites/detail/fox-lungworm/) Hope this helps and can not say I know much about these things other than what I have read on the internet and chasing scientific names off back or wormer packets!!
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Post by labramatian on Mar 30, 2013 16:15:53 GMT
My lot would run away as soon as the spot on came out, they would roll as soon as it was applied. I've been using BNM for nearly 2 years. The dogs haven't suffered any mites, fleas or ticks during that time. My HTM trainer put me on to it and has said the same - her dogs have never had fleas, mites or ticks. i only use 1 scoop per dog. I have the 1kg tub now as with three dogs 300g doesn't last long I use Wormcount.com to test for worms and a holistic wormer from Mark Pooley as a preventative.
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Post by Jessie99 on Mar 30, 2013 17:01:38 GMT
I use Frontline for Fleas and my dogs have never had fleas, mites or ticks in their lives (we have had them since pups). I use drontal but I am thinking on using Milbemax as well as Drontal doesn't cover a lot of worms as you know - however saying that my dogs have never had worms in their life either. My cats get the same. I am considering both BNM and Milbemax. Also thanks for the links Caz and thanks for the prices Orpheous.
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Post by orpheous87 on Mar 30, 2013 18:11:09 GMT
I use Panacur worming granules for my two. However, I'm not totally strict with it as the packaging says to use it twice a year. I think I probably use it a bit more often than that though. You're welcome AL!
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Post by Jessie99 on Mar 30, 2013 18:24:38 GMT
I worm my cats every 3 months as cats are more prone to worms than dogs as they hunt and spend a lot of time outside, etc and my dogs are wormed every 4 or 5 months (usually 4) My horses and ferrets are wormed and flea-ed on different stuff, obviously! My mam gets the vet to come out and do it for the horses though as it is easier and usually when I am at school it gets done so i don't know what they get! I dunno what my ferrets get either but they don't get flea-ed or wormed very regular. Probably once or twice a year and they are only round about 1 years old (two of them are sisters and the other two could possibly be sisters but we got them all the same age! ).
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Post by gladys on Mar 30, 2013 19:12:12 GMT
Thanks guys. The world of treating for worms and fleas is huge when you start researching it. It's good to see what other do. I think I will change treatments just not sure which to go for yet. Looks like I've got a little homework to do this long weekend. I still like the idea of treating even though there are no fleas on any of my pets, as being in the middle of the country side just us walking through the grass/wood could bring fleas in. So I would like the house to be a safe kill flea zone!?!
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Post by caz2golden on Mar 30, 2013 20:17:57 GMT
What household products do people use to keep fleas at bay? (again not had them but want to keep it that way!) Would like natural options if possible!! At the moment I don't use anything.
Does anyone use cedar wood under furniture for example?
Does anyone plant anything specific in the garden for the same reason such as herbs (mints, rosemary, lavender)?
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Post by orpheous87 on Mar 30, 2013 20:24:06 GMT
I don't use anything at the moment either, but I want to start so I'm very interested to see what other people can recommend!
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Post by gladys on Mar 30, 2013 20:56:06 GMT
I'm afraid I don't go natural!! I treat the whole house once a year. I the past I have used a house spray from pets at home, 'Johnsons 4Fleas Household Spray 600ml' a pink tin and gives 6 month protection. But I have just bought Indorex spray which is 12 month protection. I have only had fleas in the house once and that was 8 years ago when we brought our rescue cat Bailey home, she was completely covered in them. Once I got rid of them I started to treat the house once a year just to be sure I broke the cycle if there were any lurking about. But I have never seen one since. *Touchwood*
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Post by Jessie99 on Mar 30, 2013 21:18:15 GMT
My mam treats the whole house once a year as well but not naturally. We have a spray which we buy and spray on the furniture, etc very occasionally, mainly every 5 -6 months or more But it smells horrible so after about 30 - 60 minutes we spray febreeze or some sort of other air freshener!
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