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Post by puppypal on Aug 10, 2013 19:12:49 GMT
I thought you were going to try Yumega plus?? Are you going raw at weekends still? Could you give raw every meal for a while and see what happens? What is his currant food intake? I agree with Caz that a food diary would be a good idea. As I've told you before Cooper gets seasonal allergies in the Autumn and summer and he has food allergies too. I have found what works for him without having to go see the vet for tests but if what I have tried didn't work I would have paid for the blood tests. I think the vet said it would be around £200 but I guess you should check what is being tested for before agreeing. we are going to try yumega plus as he has almost run out of piriton, and it is too expensive for him to be on it permanently . We have stopped raw weekends at the moment, to try and get rid of some of his food backload, once his kibble has run out he will be moved onto raw fully. At the moment he is only on about 200g-250g of kibble a day. I will have a go at a food diary |
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Post by gladys on Aug 10, 2013 19:21:04 GMT
Sounds like a plan. Keep us posted.  |
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Post by BorderTerrier on Aug 11, 2013 17:08:20 GMT
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Post by breeze5 on Aug 15, 2013 15:49:11 GMT
Our 14 wk old pup was very itchy which caused a low level infection in his skin, my vet was reluctant to give him antibiotics in view of his age. We found a spray on the internet called Dermacton spray made by PetNat. www.petnat.com, our 5year old GSD bitch was constantly rubbing her chin and muzzle along the ground or on the carpets and furniture, and nothing we had tried seemed to stop it. In both cases spraying with Dermacton saw a great improvement, and the older dog has completely stopped rubbing her muzzle and the pups skin is completely clear of infection, although he still nibbles and scratches a bit, it seems to be when he is not sure what else to do or he is bored. Hope this helps. ps when we rang the people they were very helpful in their advice, and also very knowledgable about their products, which isn't always the case. |
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Post by khamioka on Aug 17, 2013 9:07:36 GMT
I am coming to my wits end with barley's itching, as far as we know there is no cause for it, when i think we are on top of it, i find he has new scabs and red patches where he has started itching in a different place. he is on piriton which reduced his itching to start of with but the effect has worn off. Putting him on a grain free diet worked but again the effect has worn off, he definitely has no fleas, our washing powder has not changed, his beds and collars have all been washed, he has been bathed in soothing shampoo and nothing is working. in the summer his skin is itchy and in the winter his paws are itchy, other than taking him to the vet for expensive tests and stuff is there anything else we can try, such as supplements or something else along these lines. The vet suggested piriton and the does to use, which is 1 4mg tablet three times a day When did this first start. I have a similar problem with my girl which started at 14 months immediately after her first booster vaccinations. I was told by my holistic vet that it had knocked out her immune system. This has caused lots of problems over the last 18 months but I have got her back in condition now. |
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Post by puppypal on Aug 17, 2013 9:29:51 GMT
I am coming to my wits end with barley's itching, as far as we know there is no cause for it, when i think we are on top of it, i find he has new scabs and red patches where he has started itching in a different place. he is on piriton which reduced his itching to start of with but the effect has worn off. Putting him on a grain free diet worked but again the effect has worn off, he definitely has no fleas, our washing powder has not changed, his beds and collars have all been washed, he has been bathed in soothing shampoo and nothing is working. in the summer his skin is itchy and in the winter his paws are itchy, other than taking him to the vet for expensive tests and stuff is there anything else we can try, such as supplements or something else along these lines. The vet suggested piriton and the does to use, which is 1 4mg tablet three times a day When did this first start. I have a similar problem with my girl which started at 14 months immediately after her first booster vaccinations. I was told by my holistic vet that it had knocked out her immune system. This has caused lots of problems over the last 18 months but I have got her back in condition now. It started i think around last summer or possible even the summer before that, he has his vacs at the start of the year so i doubt it would be that. he is still not back in condition, his coat is still very good, he just has the red scabs on his belly, groin, inside of back legs and armits |
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Post by gladys on Aug 17, 2013 11:24:42 GMT
PP if I'm writing something that has already been said then sorry but I'm not going to re-read this whole thread!! So he has made him self sore because of the itching? What are you feeding him now? Are you putting anything on his sores? What supplements are you giving? If it was me I would only feed cereal free kibble including treats (and raw if that's your weekly routine) and only give one supplement for the skin say Yumega plus. I would also be trying to sooth the skin down by putting Aloe Vera gel on his sore bits. Ooh I would also make a note of when he lays on grass or walks in farmers fields etc in case it's to do with that. I would try this for 2 to 3 weeks and if by then things didn't show any signs of improving I would go and get allergy tests done at the vets. |
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Post by puppypal on Aug 17, 2013 13:35:43 GMT
PP if I'm writing something that has already been said then sorry but I'm not going to re-read this whole thread!! So he has made him self sore because of the itching? What are you feeding him now? Are you putting anything on his sores? What supplements are you giving? If it was me I would only feed cereal free kibble including treats (and raw if that's your weekly routine) and only give one supplement for the skin say Yumega plus. I would also be trying to sooth the skin down by putting Aloe Vera gel on his sore bits. Ooh I would also make a note of when he lays on grass or walks in farmers fields etc in case it's to do with that. I would try this for 2 to 3 weeks and if by then things didn't show any signs of improving I would go and get allergy tests done at the vets. He has made himself sore by his itching and chewing At the moment he is on JWB lamb, light mixed with various nature diet trays At the moment he is getting exmarid ointment on his sores as it is antibacterial he is currently on Gro-well joint aid for dogs and cod liver oil, he has stopped his pirition as we ran out and it was too expensive to keep him on We have put yumega plus on our list for what next to order as he needs some more joint and flea stuff as wellwe have stopped his raw weekends for the moment and possibly completely until we have finished all his kibble
We have not tried aloe Vera yet, might give it a go
Easter this year we put him on raw for the two weeks and his itching stopped, it is just we have a back load of kibble so he cant go on raw fully yet, once his kibble has gone he should be on raw fully. His last bag of kibble is cereal free JWB fish, but he has to get through the light stuff first |
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Post by Avansa on Aug 17, 2013 13:45:02 GMT
Easter this year we put him on raw for the two weeks and his itching stopped, it is just we have a back load of kibble so he cant go on raw fully yet, once his kibble has gone he should be on raw fully. His last bag of kibble is cereal free JWB fish, but he has to get through the light stuff first If feeding raw ended his discomfort, it sounds like he's allergic to something in his food. If he were my dog, I wouldn't wait until he's finished all those bags of kibble, sore and in pain. I'd either sell them, or more likely donate them to a local charity that could use them. All of those ointments aren't going to help if it's a food related issue, especially if they build up on his skin. |
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Post by scallywag on Aug 17, 2013 13:47:25 GMT
PP If you are spending out on all these remedies, then why not just spend out on raw instead and give Barley a better quality of life ? I know if it was me in agony because I was using something, I certainly would not continue to use it. , and the money only has to be spent once  . You can always donate food to a rescue centre, thinkmthat was suggested on another thread, so it wont be wasted Edit ... We posted together Avansa LOL |
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Post by gladys on Aug 17, 2013 14:16:54 GMT
I'm going to agree with the two above. If you saw improvements with the raw then I would only feed raw and possibly cereal free (but maybe not duck or beef). I would give all other foods to charity, I have a free post address for Dogs trust who will take opened food too. If you want to make a bit of money you could sell the unopened food on ebay but you would have to make it local so pick up only or will cost a load to send. If you feed what you know will help you wont need to buy so many supplements and lotions. Oh and are you feeding Vit E with the Salmon oil? |
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Post by caz2golden on Aug 17, 2013 14:29:14 GMT
puppypal Hasn't your vet offered you a dermatology appointment along the way? Just when my vet noticed something at a recent appointment they did not hesitate to refer as the straight forward way is to get a positive identification for the problem and then treat it. Its a lot easier to avoid an allergy once you know what it is. You have for quite a while been trying things out to see if you hit the jackpot! Your persistence and attempts are to be admired however, in reality you are trying to cure something which is an unknown and so this is always going to be a real uphill struggle and really difficult to achieve. With all the supplements and food changes you and your family have tried, you will have spent so much more than a straight forward appointment for a dermatologist! Not that the appointment = instant answers but it is a real stepping stone to getting to the bottom of the problem. I really do think that as this does keep reoccurring (which lets face it be it his paws or his skin it does) that you really do need to get to the root of the problem and to be honest that probably means your parents contacting your vet and saying they want to get to root of issue. You have said you are insured so use it!! I know I will be! I agree with gladys comment, keeping a detailed diary of exactly what he eats, where he goes on walks etc will hopefully give you an insight to what could be causing the problem without the vets. I agree with other members comments Avansa scallywag which imply that if you know he is good on raw (for definite) then why wait to move? Its so easy for an ingredient (and perhaps not an obvious one) to be an issue. I would not continue using food if it was causing my girls discomfort! However without knowing the cause how do any of us know its the food!!
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Post by BorderTerrier on Aug 18, 2013 17:13:16 GMT
I agree with the above posts! Unfortunately puppypal it looks like you have tried a lot with no huge successes. I would keep Barley on his raw that he thrives on and enjoys. I am sorry that he and you are going through a hard time with this. If his itching stopped when he was on raw, let raw be the food. Even though you are trying not to waste the kibble, why put him on it when its not the best for him? Giving food away to a dog charity would be a lovely thing to do, plus your doing the best for Barley |
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