|
Post by orpheous87 on Jun 15, 2013 14:10:46 GMT
I bought Skip his stag bar as he was so interested in them while visiting pet shop in Keswick,and was still very interested during a visit to P.A.H. when we came home.He was very keen at first,then ignored it. It became a very painful item to stocking feet, so was relegated to his toy box.I suppose a dog with a very enthusiastic bite could break a tooth on one. I agree with this! I'm forever stepping on the one that Ellie keeps lying around and it hurts so much! We put the stagbar back in the bed that's in the living room (it's used as more of a toy box than a bed) and Ellie will ignore it for a good few weeks, but every now and then, she goes over there and you can see her rooting around for something. Then she'll come running back across the room with the stagbar in her mouth. But other times she'll pull out a toy that she hasn't played with for ages. I figure that if she's pulling the stagbar out, she feels like she needs a good chew, so I don't see the harm in letting her keep it. BT just because you haven't heard a complaint about stagbars doesn't mean that they don't happen. Every dog is different and some, if they have bad teeth anyway, may be more likely to break a tooth on a chew like this. Especially if they're enthusiastic chewers, like Migsy said. I think the main thing for people to remember with these things is to keep an eye on your dog if you give them a stag bar and keep an eye on their teeth. If you see any signs of damage, then remove the chew - it's like anything you give to your dog really.
|
|
|
Post by BorderTerrier on Jun 15, 2013 14:18:08 GMT
I bought Skip his stag bar as he was so interested in them while visiting pet shop in Keswick,and was still very interested during a visit to P.A.H. when we came home.He was very keen at first,then ignored it. It became a very painful item to stocking feet, so was relegated to his toy box.I suppose a dog with a very enthusiastic bite could break a tooth on one. I agree with this! I'm forever stepping on the one that Ellie keeps lying around and it hurts so much! We put the stagbar back in the bed that's in the living room (it's used as more of a toy box than a bed) and Ellie will ignore it for a good few weeks, but every now and then, she goes over there and you can see her rooting around for something. Then she'll come running back across the room with the stagbar in her mouth. But other times she'll pull out a toy that she hasn't played with for ages. I figure that if she's pulling the stagbar out, she feels like she needs a good chew, so I don't see the harm in letting her keep it. BT just because you haven't heard a complaint about stagbars doesn't mean that they don't happen. Every dog is different and some, if they have bad teeth anyway, may be more likely to break a tooth on a chew like this. Especially if they're enthusiastic chewers, like Migsy said. I think the main thing for people to remember with these things is to keep an eye on your dog if you give them a stag bar and keep an eye on their teeth. If you see any signs of damage, then remove the chew - it's like anything you give to your dog really. Yep, fair enough But Earl is an awfully enthusiastic chewer.
|
|
|
Post by orpheous87 on Jun 15, 2013 14:42:09 GMT
So is Ellie, but as her teeth are in decent condition, I don't think there's any cause for concern at the moment. I imagine Earl is the same
|
|
|
Post by BorderTerrier on Jun 15, 2013 14:58:17 GMT
So is Ellie, but as her teeth are in decent condition, I don't think there's any cause for concern at the moment. I imagine Earl is the same Yes, Earl is the same
|
|
|
Post by caz2golden on Jun 15, 2013 15:00:24 GMT
I agree with Avansa that it is unlikely that any damage will be done to dogs' teeth by StagBars. StagBars have high reviews - I have seen them. I have never heard a complaint regarding damage to teeth. They are a chew at the end of the day - the chewing process succeeds via teeth. Remember DentaStix? They are not good, but they are only not good for the dog's health and weight; they are fine for the teeth and do no harm. And that's even DentaStix... those fatty things. I think I may be misunderstanding you are you saying Dentastix are good for teeth? You also imply that they are full of fat! I agree their contents are to be desired and are not overly healthy for your dog. Here's what is in a dentastix Cereals, Derivatives of Vegetable Origin, Minerals (min. 2.6% Sodium Tripolyphosphate, min. 0.11% Zinc Sulphate) Meat and Animal Derivatives.
Protein 10 %, Oil 1 %, Ash 10 %, Fibre 3%. With colourants and preservatives (permitted EC additives).I would not say something with 1% oil (which is the fat content at the end of the day) warrants saying its high fat!! However it does not say how much carbohydrates are in it. As the analysis only totals 24% that could imply that it contains 76% carbohydrate. Wonder how much = sugar? Now sugar is not good for teeth!! I believe Sodium Tripolyphosphate is a salt (but I am not a chemist)!!
|
|
|
Post by BorderTerrier on Jun 15, 2013 15:04:10 GMT
I agree with Avansa that it is unlikely that any damage will be done to dogs' teeth by StagBars. StagBars have high reviews - I have seen them. I have never heard a complaint regarding damage to teeth. They are a chew at the end of the day - the chewing process succeeds via teeth. Remember DentaStix? They are not good, but they are only not good for the dog's health and weight; they are fine for the teeth and do no harm. And that's even DentaStix... those fatty things. I think I may be misunderstanding you are you saying Dentastix are good for teeth? You also imply that they are full of fat! I agree their contents are to be desired and are not overly healthy for your dog. Here's what is in a dentastix Cereals, Derivatives of Vegetable Origin, Minerals (min. 2.6% Sodium Tripolyphosphate, min. 0.11% Zinc Sulphate) Meat and Animal Derivatives.
Protein 10 %, Oil 1 %, Ash 10 %, Fibre 3%. With colourants and preservatives (permitted EC additives).I would not say something with 1% oil (which is the fat content at the end of the day) warrants saying its high fat!! However it does not say how much carbohydrates are in it. As the analysis only totals 24% that could imply that it contains 76% carbohydrate. Wonder how much = sugar? Now sugar is not good for teeth!! I believe Sodium Tripolyphosphate is a salt (but I am not a chemist)!! I am surprised that you haven't noticed people's negative comments over time about the contents of DentaStix! I am not saying DentaStix are GOOD for teeth, but I am not saying they are BAD for teeth either.
|
|
|
Post by caz2golden on Jun 15, 2013 15:32:41 GMT
I am not saying they are good. Think you have missed my comments I have already made! But they are not high fat which you said they are!!
|
|
|
Post by petitsfilous on Jun 15, 2013 15:50:39 GMT
Bernie LOVES his Stagbar and I will continue to buy them for him. It's his favourite chew toy by far! Like previously said, nothing is risk free these days. I'd never give Bernie a Dentastix. I'm awfully funny about treats and chews like that.
|
|
|
Post by BorderTerrier on Jun 15, 2013 17:29:19 GMT
Bernie LOVES his Stagbar and I will continue to buy them for him. It's his favourite chew toy by far! Like previously said, nothing is risk free these days. I'd never give Bernie a Dentastix. I'm awfully funny about treats and chews like that.Its the best way to be! That way you don't ever find yourself carelessly flinging junk for your dog into your shopping trolley...
|
|
|
Post by puppypal on Jun 15, 2013 17:37:32 GMT
talking on the subject of contents of dog food, i was looking at some joint stuff when we were getting barley some raw food and the first things on the list of ingredients was cereals, then animal derivatives, for joint tablets, with very little amounts of glucosamine and chrondridite
|
|
|
Post by CollieSlave on Jun 22, 2013 9:36:39 GMT
I think I may be misunderstanding you are you saying Dentastix are good for teeth? You also imply that they are full of fat! I agree their contents are to be desired and are not overly healthy for your dog. Here's what is in a dentastix Cereals, Derivatives of Vegetable Origin, Minerals (min. 2.6% Sodium Tripolyphosphate, min. 0.11% Zinc Sulphate) Meat and Animal Derivatives.
Protein 10 %, Oil 1 %, Ash 10 %, Fibre 3%. With colourants and preservatives (permitted EC additives).I would not say something with 1% oil (which is the fat content at the end of the day) warrants saying its high fat!! However it does not say how much carbohydrates are in it. As the analysis only totals 24% that could imply that it contains 76% carbohydrate. Wonder how much = sugar? Now sugar is not good for teeth!! I believe Sodium Tripolyphosphate is a salt (but I am not a chemist)!! I am surprised that you haven't noticed people's negative comments over time about the contents of DentaStix! I am not saying DentaStix are GOOD for teeth, but I am not saying they are BAD for teeth either. I am confused by your comments in different posts on this topic. Here you say that you are NOT saying Dentastix are good for teeth (see in bold above) but on your post (last of page 1 of this thread) you said - "... they are only not good for the dog's health and weight; they are fine for the teeth and do no harm."
|
|
|
Post by SarahHound on Jun 22, 2013 9:56:28 GMT
I'll be the bad guy, I give Dentastix hang, draw and quarter me now! Honestly, I know whats in them, and the reviews, but my dogs have good teeth which I can't explain OTHER than the dentastix, they must be doing something. It may help that I freeze them, certainly takes a while for them to get through them.
|
|
|
Post by BorderTerrier on Jun 22, 2013 11:15:39 GMT
SarahHound; nobody is stopping you giving DentaStix. What you give your dog(s) is as personal choice no other. CollieSlave; they are not good, but they are not really bad. I hope this makes sense!
|
|
|
Post by CurlyCub on Jun 22, 2013 11:18:42 GMT
I give Jess DentaStix. They don't do Jess any harm and don't make her put on weight - then again she gets walked twice every day and goes to the park on weekends... I don't clean her teeth with toothpaste, so it must be the DentaStix doing it.
|
|
|
Post by BorderTerrier on Jun 22, 2013 11:52:20 GMT
I give Jess DentaStix. They don't do Jess any harm and don't make her put on weight - then again she gets walked twice every day and goes to the park on weekends... I don't clean her teeth with toothpaste, so it must be the DentaStix doing it. Earl gets three walks per day and an extra long one on the weekends, plus the field. He, however, did put on weight when fed DentaStix. I give Earl a whole raw carrot every day as a teeth cleaner and it works like a charm - plus being ever so healthy
|
|