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Post by CollieSlave on May 23, 2013 13:06:06 GMT
Now here's a thing! The Association of American Food Control Officials (AAFCO) specifies what ingredients are acceptable in pet foods. One of the more disturbing ingredients that are acceptable is quoted below - "3. Dried swine waste - composed of excreta that has been artificially dehydrated to a moisture content not in excess of 15%. It shall contain not less than 20% crude protein, not more than 35% crude fiber, including other material such as straw, wood shavings, or acceptable bedding materials, and not more than 20% ash. (Martin, 2008)." Admittedly many dogs have quite a taste for sheep muck and so forth, but do you think that the inclusion of dehydrated pig STOP SWEARING is acceptable? These specifications are used by the large pet food manufacturers - and it is, perhaps, naive to believe that those pet foods sold in this country by the multi-national manufacturers do not include stuff like this ("animal derivatives" I think it may be called! True enough!!!) If you want to peruse a substantial document on this subject, this is where I gained the information - www.ukrmb.co.uk/images/Research%20Paper%20-%20Raw%20Diet%20v%20Kibble%20Diet%20.pdf
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Post by gladys on May 23, 2013 13:19:04 GMT
But I'm guess this is only possible in food that state "animal derivatives"?? They can't put this in the better quality foods that actually list the ingredients of the food?? Another reason to not feed animal derivatives!!
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Post by CollieSlave on May 23, 2013 13:57:02 GMT
But I'm guess this is only possible in food that state "animal derivatives"?? They can't put this in the better quality foods that actually list the ingredients of the food?? Another reason to not feed animal derivatives!! As you say, avoid any food that contains animal (or, if it comes to that, vegetable) derivatives. I feel sure that it is the makers of the big names like Pedigree (owned by Mars who are American) to name but one who go in for this distasteful practice of using ANY animal by-product under the sinister heading of "animal derivatives"!!. These companies sole interest is making vast profits which they do by using the cheapest ingredients. And 'animal derivatives' covers a multitude of sins - as John Burns says, if you knew what it was, you wouldn't feed it!!!
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Post by lotsofcats on May 23, 2013 15:08:51 GMT
Yuck, that is not nice! I can't understand how it is acceptable to be able to add it into dog food.
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Post by caz2golden on May 23, 2013 19:57:48 GMT
Wish I had not been eating a lovely lindor ball when I started to read this one!! Not surprised to be honest but sure don't want to think about it! Not acceptable in my opinion. Then again you can look closer to home for disgusting things but then again this was illegal!! You must have heard about dogs being used to make animal protein that is then used in pet foods (Spain)!! Therefore you dog may be eating dog!! www.poisonedpets.com/spain-confirms-stray-dogs-used-to-manufacture-pet-food-and-animal-feed/
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Post by BorderTerrier on May 24, 2013 18:25:04 GMT
Its weird to think that this could be the case, we could in fact be feeding our dogs **********!! Not a nice thought!
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Post by gladys on May 24, 2013 18:31:47 GMT
But I'm guess this is only possible in food that state "animal derivatives"?? They can't put this in the better quality foods that actually list the ingredients of the food?? Another reason to not feed animal derivatives!! As you say, avoid any food that contains animal (or, if it comes to that, vegetable) derivatives. I feel sure that it is the makers of the big names like Pedigree (owned by Mars who are American) to name but one who go in for this distasteful practice of using ANY animal by-product under the sinister heading of "animal derivatives"!!. These companies sole interest is making vast profits which they do by using the cheapest ingredients. And 'animal derivatives' covers a multitude of sins - as John Burns says, if you knew what it was, you wouldn't feed it!!! Yeah you see this is why I don't buy any foods or treats for Cooper that say animal or vegetable derivatives. That unknown phrase is just not acceptable for me.
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Post by bextull on May 24, 2013 18:54:29 GMT
On the subject of dog food, when people read the labels and see 'chicken meal' or 'dried lamb meal' or similar listed what do you think is in the food?
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Post by puppypal on May 24, 2013 19:05:43 GMT
bextull i think of meat, bone, offal and any bi products of that animal
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Post by caz2golden on May 24, 2013 20:39:49 GMT
On the subject of dog food, when people read the labels and see 'chicken meal' or 'dried lamb meal' or similar listed what do you think is in the food? Any part of a carcass ( but excludes spinal column, brain and cancerous lumps). Does contain things like beaks, feet, offal, bone etc Meal usually means dehydrated so it is cooked to point that it is unrecognizable!! However as it is the dry form its amount does equal whats in the ingredients list (% wise) If ingredients says fresh (e,g fresh chicken) will be the carcass bits before being cooked so will be ~ 70% water. Therefore you need to do mental calculation to estimate how much meat is really in the dry food!! Am I close Bextull?
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Post by bextull on May 24, 2013 21:32:35 GMT
Oh, well great answer Caz, but I was really just curious. You get some people who believe that when the food says 'chicken meal' its 5* chicken breasts that are used.
I was purely just wondering if anybody thought that.
;-)
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Post by gladys on May 24, 2013 23:17:53 GMT
YEah I second Caz's answer.
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