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Post by migsy on Jan 27, 2016 16:04:22 GMT
Owners dog in vets having fits etc,not expected to survive. Not any more news as yet.Dogs vet says it should never be used.
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Post by caz2golden on Jan 27, 2016 17:33:55 GMT
Terrible Feel so sorry for the dog owner who was doing what they thought was right. Looking online can not find anything about what this product contains. Anyone else had any luck? Please make sure you know what you are putting on your pet if you use a product! Problem is as people use chemical flea treatments as a preventative, over time the fleas become immune to the treatments. This makes the manufacturers make stronger and stronger pesticides to kill the fleas. I have heard bad things about the tablet forms as well as the spot ons so not implying one is worse than the other. Last time I used a spot on dog got a burn like mark so now I refuse to use them. When my dogs got fleas a few years back I used a tablet form of treatment and sprayed the house. I actually have not used a flea treatment in years, have not needed to. I would however treat the dogs if they got fleas. Though TBH I would treat the house first! People forget that 90% of fleas life is in the environment not on your pet so by hopefully keeping house well vacuumed and steam cleaning etc all helps to keep them away without having to use chemicals regularly on their pets. I think a good diet helps keep them away too, though in my case maybe some of the supplements I use which contain kelp also help as it may act as a repellent.
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Post by migsy on Jan 27, 2016 18:54:49 GMT
The warning and pic of product was one shared on local dog forum.Nothing more about the dog has been posted since 22nd January,just hoping very much that the poor dog pulled through,though owner had been warned there was every chance he wouldn't make it. The problem is naturally people trust that products sold in pet shops are safe to use on their pets.The duck fillets I bought for Skip from p.a.h. were starting to affect his health,but only found out about the danger of the product by accident when a warning flagged up while querying the price on line.It would never have crossed my mind that duck fillets could be causing harm.Thank goodness he quickly regained his stamina when he stopped having them. There was also the death of a dog caused near Christmas by eating a treated bone,again sold as a treat. I used to use Bob Martins tick treatment until it changed,and shortly after was warned the product could be dangerous.
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Post by smilesbetter on Jan 27, 2016 18:57:09 GMT
So sorry to hear about what has happened to the poor dog, I really hope the vet is able to save the dog and that there is no long lasting damage. This must be absolutely horrifying for the poor owner who will have only thought they were doing the right thing in protecting their dog from fleas. It really upsets me that companies can get away with selling such dangerous products, and the average dog owner just assumes that they are okay because it's sold in the pet shop or the supermarket and 'they wouldn't sell something dangerous'.
When I used to take Rosa to puppy class they wouldn't let people bring their dog in if it had had spot on treatment in the last few days. That really got me thinking about it, and since discovering how well a simple ACV spray (which I admit is not for everyone, not bad for a choppy loving Scot haha but not everyone can deal with the smell of vinegar when ya initially spray it on!) works I've never used spot on or any other chemical pest control for anything since.
Never seen that wormer before, where is it sold? I mean I hope the owners vet will write to the company who make the wormer to let them know of the reaction, but maybe it's also worth a bunch of concerned owners contacting the shop which it was bought from to let them know that the product they are selling is dangerous. I know it doesn't sound like much, but if the company isn't going to do anything about its rubbish product then the next best thing would be to get shops to stock better products by demanding they take the rubbish ones off the shelves. If no where sells these products, no one can buy it after all.
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Post by CollieSlave on Jan 27, 2016 19:49:19 GMT
There are plenty of places flogging this stuff (eg Amazon www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=johnson+flea+and+tick+drops ) but it gets some pretty poor reviews: many one stars! It is likely that the makers know that there can be strong adverse reactions. Like many products (worm treatments, inoculations, flea/tick treatments etc) research by the makers may well reveal risks - but as long as they consider adverse reactions will apply to only a small percentage of animals they will market it. They have invested large sums of money in product development and will be reluctant to have, effectively, wasted that money by not marketing the product. I suspect that a somewhat callous analysing of the risks and potential adverse publicity (and hence loss of sales) goes on. If the risks are judged to be small, then, hey, let's chance it!!
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Post by migsy on Jan 27, 2016 19:52:09 GMT
Sadly,I'm sure you are spot on(forgive the pun) CollieSlave
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Post by lotsofcats on Jan 28, 2016 10:40:21 GMT
Whenever we use flea treatments on our pets we are taking a risk - it might not be the actual product, some pets can have a bad reaction to them because they are allergic to whatever is in it. I use mostly Advocate on my lot but I don't use it as a preventative treatment, only when I see signs of fleas. I don't like using it but once the cats have fleas there's no other way of getting rid of them.
I hope that poor dog will be okay.
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Post by orpheous87 on Jan 28, 2016 21:53:38 GMT
I've seen on twitter tonight that unfortunately the little dog has passed away. HOWEVER, I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere by the dog's owner so I don't know 100% if it's true.
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Post by smilesbetter on Jan 28, 2016 21:56:43 GMT
Oh no, sorry to hear that. Hope it's not true but as migsy had mentioned it didn't look likely the dog would survive, then I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. If this is true, then rest in peace little one.
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Post by migsy on Jan 30, 2016 19:26:42 GMT
Such a sad and needless case,poor dog,poor owner,its too awful to imagine.It did sound hopeless when the original post was made by the dogs owner,she was naturally distraught as had been told it was unlikely the poor dog would survive.What a terrible shock for its owner, for her dog to die from a flea prevention medication,it seems so very cruel.The vet had said the stuff shouldn't be being sold.I would imagine the owner is too heartbroken to post any more information,but was so kind for thinking about other dogs and their owners for posting the picture of the flea treatment so everyone would know exactly the product to avoid.This is another product pet magazines should be warning readers about,it really is a disgrace these things can happen. Pet owners shouldn't have to play Russian Roulette with pet products.
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Post by spider on May 7, 2016 20:14:03 GMT
Thats a terrible read now i think we all have a real problem if what wr are sold to help our pets could kill them what do we do i for one wont leave moonbeam unprotected o will chat his vet Monday but how can i now trust what i get from him the stuff o am using isnt cheap but sometimes it's not a money issue it's hoping i get it right
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Post by boxerluver30 on May 7, 2016 22:49:16 GMT
That's awful , especially as the dog died as a result of having it put on! We use beaphar flea and tick spot on for samson and Mario, I've personally never seen this product before, although I have heard of the brand. We always have a can of indorex as well, about a year or two ago Mario (our cat) had a bad flea infestation, he's an outdoor cat so obviously it is easy for him to bring fleas into the house. Luckily we spotted it early and took him to the vets where he was treated with a medicated flea shampoo. I also saw loads of dogs come in with fleas when I did work experience at a groomers, I had to spend ages picking all the fleas off once I had bathed the dog, urghhh.
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