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Post by Weims on Apr 1, 2013 23:22:46 GMT
Has anyone tried this? Is it any good? I'm thinking of trying Scoobs on it. That's all, thanks!
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Post by caz2golden on Apr 2, 2013 5:46:02 GMT
No I have not. Which one of their foods are you planning to feed? CSJ does a range of food! (Original, champ and command performance)
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Post by charlottte on Apr 2, 2013 8:43:31 GMT
I haven't used it but I'm part if a group on Fb (Dog Training Advice and Support) and a lot of members on there seem to give it good reviews as its cheapish and relatively good quality
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Post by Weims on Apr 2, 2013 10:28:23 GMT
I was thinking about the 'Fit n fast!', 'Herbie nuts' or 'That'll do!' My trainer recommended it so I thought I'd give it a try (: It's cheaper than most because you have to order it from a local stockist(which cuts out the supermarkets etc).
Thanks!
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Post by scallywag on Apr 2, 2013 10:58:24 GMT
When we took Beau on, he was being fed this, but not being able to buy it locally we moved him onto Burns, partially because his poo's were not firm and also with the amount of times he was going. Since using Burns he now does only 2 a day ( so atleast we now know that the food has more goodness than rubbish in it,) but also the protein level was lower, making him less hyper, if thats at all possible with a Springer
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Post by Weims on Apr 2, 2013 13:09:27 GMT
Thanks scallywag, can you remember which variety he was on? And if possible the price? (:
I think I'm going to try him on it and see how he goes, I've had a look at the ingredients and in the Herbie nuts (£15.05 for a 15kg bag) it contains:
Protein 20.0% Fat Content 10.0% Crude Fibre 2.5% Crude Ash 5.0%
I know it gives dogs lots of energy as it is for working dogs, the herbie nuts are for slightly less active dogs and as Scoobs and me are going to start competitive agility most weekends, I think he'd really benefit from it, he was so tired after our last show!
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Post by bextull on Apr 2, 2013 13:37:19 GMT
Protein does not cause a dog to be hyper. It is more to do with the quality, not quantity of it. I feed a diet that is super high in protein and I do not have a hyper dog. Dogs get their energy from fat, they get hyper from sugar and foods filled with crappy cereals. I had a look at the CSJ foods and honestly I don't think they are great. Obviously they are better than Barkers and Pedigree but I wouldn't use it myself. I'd rather spend that little bit more and get something better quality. But its up to you really. Its not a terrible food but there are a lot better out there.
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Post by scallywag on Apr 2, 2013 14:04:31 GMT
Well that just goes to show you can't believe everything you are told, we were always led to believe the higher the protein the hyper the dog , thanks for that info bextull I can't remember which one he was on sorry, we were only sent home with half a bag, but I do have a friend who uses CSJ, again its all down to cost. Sometimes the cheaper the food the more you have to give your pet therefore the quicker you use up 15KG bag. I feed Beau as I said on Burns, it's £46 a bag but then it lasts me 8 weeks and in my reckoning it cost me 82p a day to feed him good quality food. Unless someone know's something about Burns thats not good ?? Im open to hear please
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Post by bextull on Apr 2, 2013 14:35:26 GMT
Well I wouldn't really say that burns is a good food either. For me I think its got too much grains in, you're basically paying £46 for a bag of rice and I've seen applaws on sale in the uk for £44 and cheaper and thats grain free with 80% meat. And there is Eden which is also grain free, 15kg for £49. So I think there are plenty of better options out there, but these are obviously my opinions. Its up to you what you feed YOUR dog, I just like to let people know some other options ETA, I also see fishmongers (P@H brand I think) is only £30 for 10kg and its also grain free. Millies wolfheart is another grain free brand, 15kg for around £49
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Post by Weims on Apr 2, 2013 14:45:49 GMT
I know they aren't the best, it's all I can really afford at the moment though. My mum pays for it as I can't afford to buy it all myself. He's on Pedigree at the moment so I can't wait to get him of the stuff. It's taken me a long time to find a cheap but less hideous alternative.
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Post by scallywag on Apr 2, 2013 16:28:42 GMT
Oh dear, well I'm sure you will get plenty of advice on here, they seem to know what the foods are all about. Good luck anyways
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Post by CollieSlave on Apr 2, 2013 16:29:23 GMT
A very useful resource for guidance on the good things (and bad!!) in dog foods which gives comprehensive information on ingredients, feeding costs, etc is www.whichdogfood.co.uk/Ingredients are listed and colour coded to indicate whether they are good or rubbish. And you can enter your dog's details, preferred type of food, and a limit on daily feeding costs, and then make comparisons between foods. A very good website, with, it seems, no commercial bias.
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Post by SarahHound on Apr 2, 2013 16:45:49 GMT
I hear loads of good things about CSJ but never tried it myself.
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Post by caz2golden on Apr 2, 2013 18:43:58 GMT
You know me I am a bit of a doggy food snob!!
Heres my thoughts but at the end of the day what we put should not sway you from what you think is the best option for your dog within your own budget.
I would also say that for a little more you could get a decent grain free product. Since moving them onto grain free dry food and reducing but not eliminating grains from their wet meat I have found the dogs have more energy but are less hyper. I think their coats have improved too. I cant see me changing my thoughts that grain reduced / grain free is the best option we can offer on commercial diets. Raw is another subject and one I am currently investigating and is probably the best thing we can give them as it is fresh food. At the moment I can see Applaws for about £37 for a 13.5 kg bag (small / medium dog). That's 75% chicken! However I know that budget limits us all, that's why my two are no longer on Orijen!!
My impression is there are a lot of grains in the foods that you have listed. Grain are high up on the ingredients list (within the first two). If you want to use CSJ products I do think they have better to offer!! Have you considered their performance food? www.csjk9.com/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=5 CP24 and CP21 - have added Glucosamine MSM and Chondroitin which may help towards joint care (thinking your agility)! Its possibly a bit higher in the meat contents too!!
CP30 is the high energy option but also probably the highest meat option. Note grains are further down the ingredients list. I would consider using this one if I reverted to a grained food (which I have no intention of doing)
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Post by BorderTerrier on Apr 2, 2013 18:46:38 GMT
I hear loads of good things about CSJ but never tried it myself. I can say nothing but the same.
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