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Post by orpheous87 on Jan 11, 2017 18:02:47 GMT
No specific dental chews here. Fish4Dogs sea jerky is good though. The longer sticks, not the cubes.
I won't touch rawhide with a bargepole. Too many chemicals involved in the making of it! There's a video on Facebook showing how rawhide is made and it's actually shocking.
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Post by barley on Jan 11, 2017 18:25:26 GMT
I got the F4D twists & skinny strips, both a decent size (and easy shape for me to hold whilst he chomps). He's just had a twist and it was so crunchy it made me with my sensitive teeth cringe! So hopefully these are going to help. Hmm yes I have seen that video, which is awful considering I still give him it. But it's only ever the Farmfood brand which isn't made in China and he doesn't actually swallow any. I should probably stop I guess.
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Post by orpheous87 on Jan 11, 2017 18:29:33 GMT
Haha, yes the twists are sooo crunchy! My lot love them, and I think the same as you, they must do some good if they're so crunchy.
I don't know whether the brand of rawhide makes a difference or if all rawhide is equally as bad. We can't feed rawhide anyway because it causes fights between the dogs.
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Post by barley on Jan 11, 2017 18:48:15 GMT
You're probably right, they're probably not much better. Just so few things I can give him to chew! Just taken pics of his teeth and they're ranker than I thought
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Post by orpheous87 on Jan 11, 2017 19:26:12 GMT
I know the feeling barley. Pepper's are awful. Are frozen duck/chicken necks not an option at all? I know you don't like him having bones but you can hold onto the frozen necks, even with pliers if you don't want to hold them in your hands, and they'd definitely help his teeth out.
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Post by alfiemummy on Jan 11, 2017 20:50:41 GMT
The only dried treats I can think of that haven't already been mentioned are trachea (but that's not going to be easy to hold while eating) or scalp (but it smells awful). Any other treats we've tried just don't seem to last long enough.
I agree that frozen bones would be useful if you were brave enough to try. Duck necks are great because they're quite bony and would be easy to hold. Or you could go for something that was so big there would be no possible way it could be swallowed, then take it away again.
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Post by barley on Jan 11, 2017 22:48:05 GMT
Oooh I really should give bones a try shouldn't I... I brought some Natures Menu ones before and they sat in the freezer for so long before I eventually chucked them away untouched! I think they were necks of some sort. I'll check the fat content and maybe find the courage!
If he hadn't of gone through so much last year I would book him in for a descale but no way do I want him going through another GA if it can be avoided, so just going to have to try with brushing/pastes/chews etc.
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Post by barley on Jan 26, 2017 19:14:38 GMT
Look how brave I've been! now I just need to actually feed him one
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Post by alfiemummy on Jan 26, 2017 19:20:23 GMT
Ooh good luck barley - you can do it!
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Post by caz2golden on Jan 26, 2017 19:33:58 GMT
Good luck with the duck necks
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Post by orpheous87 on Jan 26, 2017 20:20:22 GMT
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Post by barley on Jan 26, 2017 20:23:30 GMT
Does anyone know how much bone is actually in them? They look quite meaty.
I wanted to get the beef trachea, they looked really good and I think I would have been less nervous about those but the fat content was too high at 12%. The duck necks are 5.5% which is a little bit higher than I'm happy with, but then he's not going to eat a whole one in one go. And the stuff I've read online seems to indicate that with the acute form of pancreatitis, you don't need to be quite so strict with diet long term, like you would with the chronic form.
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Post by orpheous87 on Jan 26, 2017 20:25:10 GMT
I believe that a neck is more cartilage than bone (hence why the bit of turkey neck stuck in Pepper's oesophagus took so long to spot), so the bone % shouldn't be too high.
ETA: Found a page that suggests a duck neck is 50% bone but like I say, I think it's more cartilage than bone really
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Post by barley on Jan 26, 2017 20:30:26 GMT
I believe that a neck is more cartilage than bone (hence why the bit of turkey neck stuck in Pepper's oesophagus took so long to spot), so the bone % shouldn't be too high. Oh god, don't say stuff like that to me I'm really determined to try them as I so want his teeth cleaned up and I know raw chewy things are the best thing for it. Can I not feed kibble too close to him having one? Or is that an old wives tale? I've fed raw mince with kibble before and he's been fine, but I don't know if bones are different?
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Post by orpheous87 on Jan 26, 2017 20:33:14 GMT
I believe that a neck is more cartilage than bone (hence why the bit of turkey neck stuck in Pepper's oesophagus took so long to spot), so the bone % shouldn't be too high. Oh god, don't say stuff like that to me I'm really determined to try them as I so want his teeth cleaned up and I know raw chewy things are the best thing for it. Can I not feed kibble too close to him having one? Or is that an old wives tale? I've fed raw mince with kibble before and he's been fine, but I don't know if bones are different? Lol sorry, you won't have that problem, I'm sure! The turkey neck was completely my fault. Duck necks have always been fine Well, I haven't fed kibble and bones together so I don't really know. It's not usually recommended but if you gave the bone as a treat rather than part of his meal, you could feed it at any time and feed him as normal.
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