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Post by Weims on Mar 20, 2015 16:21:28 GMT
Hi cat side of the forum! Recently my mum's friend was telling her how their cat had renal failure and mentioned that when they took it to the vet the vet asked if it was being fed Go-Cat, which it was, the vet told them that Go-Cat is known to cause problems such as renal failure. During this conversation another of my mum's friends said their cat had develop cystitis which they believe was linked to it being fed Go-Cat. Needless to say we're switching Ziggy off it! Has anyone else seen renal problems caused by feeding Go-Cat?
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Post by cazypops on Mar 20, 2015 20:28:08 GMT
Both our cats get Go-Cat tender and crunchy as a side dish. They both get wet food (Flirty sachets and Bandit pate) and then a dish of go-cat to graze on if they don't want their main food or if they get the munchies in between. Not noticed any water works problems, but will certainly keep my eye open to make sure everything stays ok. Thanks for the warning Weims
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Post by tonib on Mar 20, 2015 22:47:37 GMT
Not heard anything about this but then I don't feed Go-Cat - only because the cats don't like it!
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Post by zahada on Mar 20, 2015 23:14:01 GMT
I think Go Cat was blamed for causing kidney failure in cats many, many years ago - was renamed Gone Cat by some wicked tongues. Apparently the food left grit in the kidneys or something similar. I would think the formula's been changed so no more problems. Or at least no problems that made headlines.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 16:06:27 GMT
My three won't touch it ~ even Hattie who usually eats EVERYTHING!!!
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Post by ebony on Mar 22, 2015 21:29:01 GMT
Years ago my much-missed boy Dylan had to be taken off go-cat because it made him hyperactive and caused him to start putting on weight (so before he got overweight the vet told me to take him off go-cat and put him on something else)
I put him on Purina One or Purina Proplan (both of which he completely adored)
I didn't know about this and got Tigger some go-cat (the boxes are not yet opened) because I was struggling to find Purina One for her (I got Ebony some Purina One senior because asda didn't have either indoor or light)
Now I'm afraid to give Tigger any of the go-cat (I know Ebony won't eat it because she doesn't like the taste of either it or whiskas)
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Post by smilesbetter on Mar 22, 2015 21:31:43 GMT
I suppose the same can be said for most high carb cat foods unfortunately.
My cat Smudgie used to eat Go Cat (before I came across this forum!) and she suddenly put on a huge amount of weight despite no increase in what we were feeding her. She's only just beginning to lose that weight now, at last.
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Post by Weims on Apr 4, 2015 16:31:41 GMT
Sounds like it's not the best food anyway! Glad no others are being fed it Ah that may be it then zahada , possibly not such a problem anymore
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Post by cazypops on Apr 4, 2015 16:39:20 GMT
Both my cats get Go-Cat crunchy and tender to eat at will beside their wet food. Neither of them have put any weight on, and they have been getting it since it came on the market. They don't like the original Go-Cat so I'm not sure if that makes any difference.
Plus Go-Cat is produced by Purina so what is the difference between this and Purina One?
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Post by migsy on Apr 4, 2015 16:51:27 GMT
Very interesting,as friends cat was put to sleep some years ago,she said her vet blamed diet of dry cat food.So could this mean all dry food isn't very good for cats? It must be very worrying though for cat owners.
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Post by cazypops on Apr 4, 2015 17:04:01 GMT
Very interesting,as friends cat was put to sleep some years ago,she said her vet blamed diet of dry cat food.So could this mean all dry food isn't very good for cats? It must be very worrying though for cat owners. This is why I won't feed just dry food, migsy. Not just the cats but Jasper too.
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Post by smilesbetter on Apr 4, 2015 18:53:07 GMT
migsy Youre right, dry food isn't good for cats. They haven't got digestive systems designed to access nutrients from dry food, it contains far too little meat and the cat dry food market is frankly shocking (at least there are some half decent dog dry foods). The food is designed for cheapness and convenience, but forgets the cat and its actual physical digestive system. I mean, cats living off dried food is like if I were to live off a bunch of food flavoured multivitamin tablets. It might be made up of exactly the correct amounts of each vitamin I technically need, but I'd still feel terrible and get seriously ill in the long term, because my body isn't designed to access food that way. Haha sorry, I'm in a right mood today
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Post by ebony on Apr 4, 2015 19:55:23 GMT
Ebony doesn't like wet food, she just won't eat it. Tigger loves anything that's spelled f o o d.
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Post by migsy on Apr 4, 2015 21:46:18 GMT
Thank goodness Skip has always refused completely dry food,I have always had to add some moist before he would eat it.It has always worried me a bit after seeing just how much one piece of dry food expands when he has dropped it in his water bowl.I won't change his food though,as he is 12.5 now,in extremely good health,with clear bright eyes,glossy coat,good hearing and no stiffness at all in his joints.
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Post by gypsy on Apr 4, 2015 22:35:19 GMT
The point made about most dry cat foods containing large amounts of grain/carbs is certainly relevant. Why would you feed rice, oats, wheat, potatoes etc to an obligate carnivore??? Just one of the many problems it can cause is flucuations in blood sugar levels which as we know increases the risk of diabetes. And unfortunately many cats from middle age onwards are diagnosed with diabetes.
However, there is also the issue that these diets cause cats to become chronically dehydrated over time. A large proportion of cats develop chronic renal failure, both young and old and many die from this condition. Cats have a low thirst drive and although they may drink more whilst eating dry food, this is usually insufficient. Moisture from a natural wet/raw diet is preferable. So even if cats are fed a 'high quality' high meat/protein dry food...its still dry!!
I have seen many cats that have been diagnosed with mild to moderate renal failure, return to relatively normal kidney function again, through feeding a 100% wet diet alone! Also any cat that is being treated with NSAIDs for symptoms such as arthritis pain etc is less susceptible to side effects from these drugs, IF fed a purely wet diet, because it helps to regulate healthy kidney function. And the biggest risk for using NSAIDS in cats is RENAL FAILURE.
IME there also appears to be a much higher incidence of UTI's and bladder stones in cats that are fed a dry food diet....which isn't surprising because if feeding a dry food, it often produces alkaline urine with provides the perfect environment for struvite crystals. When a cat is fed a wet diet it naturally produces a more dilute urine and therefore is unlikely to develop crystals, stones and urethral blockages that can be potentially fatal.
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