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Post by charlottte on Oct 5, 2014 19:54:46 GMT
If he's squealing it could be catching the nerve so even if it isn't bleeding it might be causing him a bit of pain.
They're about as short as they can go because you can see the blood supply right to the end. A wlot of groomers will take the tips off a dogs nails weekly because it apparently helps the blood supply receed. Nobody told jasper this because his are still really long despite being done weekly lol
Have you seen the sophia yin video? That's the video I show to people about clipping nails but you need someone else to help. Counter conditioning and desensitising but feeding at the same time might take his mind off it.
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Post by migsy on Oct 9, 2014 19:55:31 GMT
I am a bit miffed over new guillotene claw clippers I bought yesterday,they are utterly useless! I have had some mikki ones (think thats the name) for years, and have clipped Skips nails regularly from him being very young without any trouble, he is so comfortable with it he often falls asleep while I trim the fur around his feet and clip his nails. I tried the new ones from P.A.H. and they are awful,they just aren't sharp and don't cut clean.Skip is wary of them,so don't think they feel comfortable,so after clipping three nails,gave up as I don't want him to be nervous of having his nails clipped,as he hasn't had a problem with it before. The card says precision cutting blades,and soft grip handles for comfort and control,they feel so wrong I was beginning to wonder if they were made for a left handed person.So it means a trail back to P.A.H. I read many years ago in one of my dog books that the guillotene clippers are the best to use,as the pliers type can crush the nail which can cause pain to the sensitive nail bed inside.
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Post by smilesbetter on Oct 10, 2014 20:22:43 GMT
Not a huge fan of nail clipping either, although actually once I accidentally cut the quick on one of Rosas nails, and she wasn't bothered, it has made me a lot more confident in doing it, and I've never cut the quick since. However she's got two deformed dew claws and the nail grows around them, against the skin, making it incredibly hard to cut. Can't wait to get those dew claws removed! Great idea for the sandpaper nail file haha, let us know how it gets on. How would it work for the back feet though? One of my cats has really long nails on her back feet haha which is what made me think of it. zahada when I was training Rosa to get used to having her nails done, I'd just give her a dried bulls penis haha! She quickly associated having her nails done with eating the bulls penis, which she only gets in certain situations, and so is now fine getting them done even without one. Also she gets her nails done as part of our regular full groom once a week, so she's usually practically sleeping by the time I get on to doing her nails. Being groomed seems to make her fall asleep haha, so not much problems with cutting her nails other than the deformed two which also hang off (they're only attached by a tiny piece of skin) and flap about so I worry when doing them that I'll accidentally rip off the toe or something. Urgh, they're horrible! Also I ages with migsy on the guillotine ones being the best to use. I had the plier type first but hated using them and they always made the nail kinda twist round a little before cutting which I'd imagine would be sore, plus the end result wasn't always as clean. I use the plier ones to cute dried tripe for treats now (they're the only things I have the cuts through it) and use the guillotine ones, which also help making sure I don't cut too far up and feel loads safer.
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Post by migsy on Oct 10, 2014 22:18:00 GMT
Returned clippers to P.A.H. Manager was perfectly nice and gave me a refund.
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Post by BorderTerrier on Oct 11, 2014 20:33:51 GMT
Nail clipping is a little nerve wrecking isn't it!! Its the black nails that get me. Both Earl and Ethel have them, and Earl really doesn't like his being done.
A nail file was recommended to me for black nails to do it one bit at a time, however I can see Earl disliking that even more than having a quick chop that's over with in a few milliseconds!
Does anyone else use a nail file and could tell me a little more about their experience with them?
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Post by migsy on Oct 11, 2014 21:06:14 GMT
You could try the finest emery paper B.T. they may prefer that.While googling guillotene claw clippers,there are tips and clips from youtube how to do it.One tip was to shine torch at back of dark claws to see where quick ends,or just take off tip if not sure. Also to be careful with Dremmel files as they can get hot.
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Post by BorderTerrier on Oct 11, 2014 21:11:26 GMT
You could try the finest emery paper B.T. they may prefer that.While googling guillotene claw clippers,there are tips and clips from youtube how to do it.One tip was to shine torch at back of dark claws to see where quick ends,or just take off tip if not sure. Also to be careful with Dremmel files as they can get hot. Thanks migsy!
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Post by bextull on Oct 11, 2014 22:40:28 GMT
Not a huge fan of nail clipping either, although actually once I accidentally cut the quick on one of Rosas nails, and she wasn't bothered, it has made me a lot more confident in doing it, and I've never cut the quick since. However she's got two deformed dew claws and the nail grows around them, against the skin, making it incredibly hard to cut. Can't wait to get those dew claws removed! Great idea for the sandpaper nail file haha, let us know how it gets on. How would it work for the back feet though? One of my cats has really long nails on her back feet haha which is what made me think of it. zahada when I was training Rosa to get used to having her nails done, I'd just give her a dried bulls penis haha! She quickly associated having her nails done with eating the bulls penis, which she only gets in certain situations, and so is now fine getting them done even without one. Also she gets her nails done as part of our regular full groom once a week, so she's usually practically sleeping by the time I get on to doing her nails. Being groomed seems to make her fall asleep haha, so not much problems with cutting her nails other than the deformed two which also hang off (they're only attached by a tiny piece of skin) and flap about so I worry when doing them that I'll accidentally rip off the toe or something. Urgh, they're horrible! Also I ages with migsy on the guillotine ones being the best to use. I had the plier type first but hated using them and they always made the nail kinda twist round a little before cutting which I'd imagine would be sore, plus the end result wasn't always as clean. I use the plier ones to cute dried tripe for treats now (they're the only things I have the cuts through it) and use the guillotine ones, which also help making sure I don't cut too far up and feel loads safer.Well I managed to find some sandpaper in the garage (not near enough but it will do for now) and I'm currently teaching Oscar to dig at it. As for his back nails. I was thinking of capturing this kicking motion he does after a big stretch or when playing but I think I'll just stick to clipping those. They're easy enough to do now if you can get him lying on his side. I'm currently stuck with the plier ones because when Oscar would jerk his leg back it's much easier to remove the plier ones than the guillotine ones when you're halfway through cutting a nail. But I prefer the guillotine ones, they cut much easier, stay sharper for longer and when you want to cut little thin sections off you can with little difficulty. Hopefully though this nail file thing will work. The weather isn't really helping though and mam wont let me use it inside.
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Post by migsy on Oct 11, 2014 23:08:40 GMT
B.T; As I scrolled down I found a great clip demonstrating how best to do it by the very clever kikopup,it really is very good. bextul; I use emery boards on my own nails rather than a nail file,they work fine smoothing dogs claws too after clipping (not the one I use on my own nails ha ha).Perhaps your mam may let you work on Oscars claws if you spread an old sheet on the floor first? Skips back claws don't seem to get as long as his front ones,seems to be a common thing,I wonder why?
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Post by BorderTerrier on Oct 12, 2014 15:36:54 GMT
B.T; As I scrolled down I found a great clip demonstrating how best to do it by the very clever kikopup,it really is very good.bextul; I use emery boards on my own nails rather than a nail file,they work fine smoothing dogs claws too after clipping (not the one I use on my own nails ha ha).Perhaps your mam may let you work on Oscars claws if you spread an old sheet on the floor first? Skips back claws don't seem to get as long as his front ones,seems to be a common thing,I wonder why? Thanks again migsy! One of my agility buddies recommended Kikopup for helping train Ethel in foundation agility so I'm familiar
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Post by zahada on Oct 14, 2014 22:09:37 GMT
Nail clipping is a little nerve wrecking isn't it!! Its the black nails that get me. Both Earl and Ethel have them, and Earl really doesn't like his being done. A nail file was recommended to me for black nails to do it one bit at a time, however I can see Earl disliking that even more than having a quick chop that's over with in a few milliseconds! Does anyone else use a nail file and could tell me a little more about their experience with them? I tried using a nail file - a doggy one by Mikki. Found it useless. Had more success using an ordinary emery board, but was very slow.
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Post by migsy on Oct 14, 2014 23:06:27 GMT
Found the problem with the guillotene nail clippers, I think it's a design fault! no wonder I had problems trying to use the new ones I bought, I was like a contortionist trying to figure out how to use them.The blade side should lie flat against dogs claw so you are able to clip off just the tip,now the handles are more chunky, so the blade is too far away from the edge. so it's practically impossible.Sadly I found all I looked at to be of similar pattern. Luckily I found some stainless steel smart groom ones by Wahl on e.bay which look like my original ones and which lasted donkeys years.
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Post by smilesbetter on Oct 15, 2014 9:40:45 GMT
Found the problem with the guillotene nail clippers, I think it's a design fault! no wonder I had problems trying to use the new ones I bought, I was like a contortionist trying to figure out how to use them.The blade side should lie flat against dogs claw so you are able to clip off just the tip,now the handles are more chunky, so the blade is too far away from the edge. so it's practically impossible.Sadly I found all I looked at to be of similar pattern. Luckily I found some stainless steel smart groom ones by Wahl on e.bay which look like my original ones and which lasted donkeys years. Haha like the description, I can picture it exactly!
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Post by migsy on Oct 15, 2014 13:27:30 GMT
Hee hee,yes,nearly did handstands smilesbetter! But I AM VERY VERY HAPPY NOW!!! clippers arrived this morning, exactly like my old ones,and completely silent,I am delighted.They only cost 5.60 and thats including postage,was quick delivery too.So anyone having difficulties,I would advise giving these a whirl,and you wont end up nearly standing on your head! P.S. forgot to say you get 5% off your next order too.
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Post by smilesbetter on Oct 15, 2014 20:28:34 GMT
Haha nice migsy , glad to hear you got them now anyway Well I made an unfortunately discovery this morning. I went to clip Rosas nails and she was super fidgety, she seemed to be scared of the nail clippers and the scissors for cutting the overgrown hair between her toes. I couldn't understand it, she's fine with this normally! I had to get my man to help keep her still, and it told him I couldn't understand why she was being like that. He then told me that she had had her nails done last time she was at the vets and that loads of them were bleeding. (Insert profuse swearing here). I will have to start getting her used to having her nails touched again, and getting her used to the clippers and the scissors. Poor thing. Blooming vets!
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