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Post by shivanqueen on May 9, 2014 20:32:23 GMT
Hello there! I'm new to the forum but I have a big question that I'm hoping maybe someone can answer for me. I adopted a dog from a rescue centre last year and I was lead to believe she is german shepherd cross corgi, but after doing some research I stumbled upon this bread, the Swedish Vallhund. I will probably get a DNA test done eventually but at the moment funds aren't good enough to pay for extras like that. I will post some images on here and hopefully some can have a look and see what breed you think she is. The link below is a video so should give a pretty good view of her. This is when we first got her as well hence the tag in her ear, which is gone now. Tsuki < This is the Youtube video link.
< If you right click the little icon and click open in new tab or window you can see the photos.
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Post by caz2golden on May 9, 2014 21:23:52 GMT
I know nothing about the breed (Swedish Vallhund) but my limited understanding is that they typically have that greyish guard hair along their backs and masked face. Though colours vary as the following site shows. www.minikota.4t.com/catalog.htmlYour dog reminds me in some ways of the queens Corgi / long haired Dachshund cross (i.e a Dorgi). Cant find image of the dog I was thinking of so some general pictures will have to do!! www.dogbreedinfo.com/dorgi.htm
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2014 10:05:38 GMT
No, she's definitely not a Vallhund My parents had a little cross called Cindy who was just like your girlie and the vet reckoned she had a touch of jack russell in but looking at your video I'd agree with caz - corgi/dachshund cross? Whatever she is, she is absolutely BEAUTIFUL and such a happy wee lass
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Post by shivanqueen on May 10, 2014 10:31:21 GMT
Thank you for the response you two It's so difficult without a DNA test I know, but looking at her and the images of dachshund / corgis she doesn't really fit that, but then each cross can be completely different so I suppose it's not entirely accurate. The reason I thought she might be a Vallhund is because of her coat colour (black and tan mixed, almost like a wolf/german shepherd), but the place where we got her from, and also on her passport, states that she is a mixed breed and the corgi is definitely apparent if she is indeed mixed. I find it difficult to imagine a corgi and a german shepherd mating though haha, but I suppose it's possible And thank you for the comment Gilly ^_^ she is very beautiful and ever so loving x EDIT: I forgot to mention that she was rescued from Romania so the breeds their may be a bit different. Another possibility we saw was the corgi/romanian wolf because of the fur colour/length and also she is very timid and makes sort of growly noises when she's excited.
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Post by scallywag on May 10, 2014 11:21:34 GMT
Oh feel stupid now it wasn't until I read @gillykat post that I sat here scratched my head and asked myself well where is the picture ? I clicked on both the squares yesterday, just after you posted and thought to myself that you han't managed to upload a photo. I saw the word Tsuki and just assumed you were signing off with your name Doh Well finally I got to see the video she is so lovely, bless her. Thanks for posting the video.
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Post by zahada on May 10, 2014 12:10:19 GMT
Oh feel stupid now it wasn't until I read @gillykat post that I sat here scratched my head and asked myself well where is the picture ? I clicked on both the squares yesterday, just after you posted and thought to myself that you han't managed to upload a photo. I saw the word Tsuki and just assumed you were signing off with your name Doh Well finally I got to see the video she is so lovely, bless her. Thanks for posting the video. I did the same. LOL.
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Post by shivanqueen on May 10, 2014 18:09:46 GMT
My apologies. I've written descriptions so as to make it more clear And thank you for the compliments x
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Post by Roo on May 10, 2014 18:29:57 GMT
I would go with definitely not Valhund! I have an Elkhoud and through her I know people who own both Elkies and valhunds. Valhunds are still a fairly rare breed and kept by enthusiasts who do everything they can do protect the breed the world over - so from that side of things I would say no as well; having said that accidents do happen in every circle.
Corgis can have the markings you describe and can have the same 'harsh' texture that German Shepherds have.
I'd say that there is definitely corgi there!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2014 20:17:43 GMT
She's a Romanian Bitzer Hound Bitsa this and bitsa that
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Post by shivanqueen on May 11, 2014 11:32:01 GMT
Haha, it does look like that may be the case Gilly Well, in any case she's beautiful and we love her. Maybe one day we'll get a dna test to make absolutely sure, purely for curiosity sake
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Post by scallywag on May 11, 2014 11:38:18 GMT
Haha, it does look like that may be the case Gilly Well, in any case she's beautiful and we love her. Maybe one day we'll get a dna test to make absolutely sure, purely for curiosity sake puppypal and CurlyCub both got DNA tests last year, you may find it interesting to read their reports posted on here shivanqueen
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Post by smilesbetter on May 11, 2014 16:06:24 GMT
Was she a Romanian street dog or a pet dog put into rescue? My experience is that street dogs from Romania are completely random bred and are unlikely to have high percentages of any breed in their make up, more a total mix. I think the "Romanian wolf" idea is wrong though, wolves are very unlikely to breed with dogs (unless captive bred and even then unlikely) and would more likely kill them. Also wolves aren't so likely to be living in urban areas, whereas street dogs generally would. Definitely not vallhund and I'd say corgi is probably fairly unlikely too as corgis aren't very popular outside the UK as far as I know.
Perhaps there is some Carpathian sheepdog in there somewhere as they are more of a local breed, and/or some farming stock GSD as they are very widespread. As I say though, the majority of street dogs in Romania are not pure bred or even crossbreeds, they are random bred complete mutts. A blood test may find what percentages of everything there is, but it's very unlikely to be just two or even four things. Your dog could be the result of many generations of random breeding, all of the street dogs from Romania that I've met have been.
Also there is a short legged variety of the Transylvanian hound which is only found in Hungary and Romania, could possibly have a contribution to the short leggedness.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2014 19:56:51 GMT
You're a font of knowledge smilesbetter I never knew corgis were rare outside the UK and an awful lot of European breeds I haven't a clue about We never had all these different breeds when I was a kid
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Post by smilesbetter on May 11, 2014 20:21:26 GMT
You're a font of knowledge smilesbetter I never knew corgis were rare outside the UK and an awful lot of European breeds I haven't a clue about We never had all these different breeds when I was a kid We never had them when I was a kid either haha, my well worn dog book (which I still have and is still one of my fav books haha) hardly has any breeds compared to what there is now! But I love learning about dog breeds and have two great apps on my phone about dog breeds, both of which contain a lot of rarer breeds. I've never actually seen a Corgi in my life haha, and I'm sure they are on the vulnerable native breeds list that the kennel club has, or at least one of them is and the other is virtually on it. They seem like nice dogs, so it's a shame, but I'm more worried about my favourite breed, the Scottish Deerhound, being on that list, and Greyfriars Bobbys breed the Skye Terrier! At least the Queen will keep corgis from going extinct haha, who's gonna help my beloved deerhound before I have the space to get one?
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Post by smilesbetter on May 11, 2014 20:23:47 GMT
Plus @gillykat they say there is a person in my district of Berlin from every country of the world, and a lot of them have brought pets with them haha. I like to know what all the dog breeds I see on the street are so I either ask the owners or look them up! I never know about Entlebucher or Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs before I came here, but they're everywhere, very popular dogs!
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