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Post by migsy on Jun 6, 2013 20:31:32 GMT
We actually had Sam do an impressive body swerve to get to some fresh horse poo recently,I had actually spotted it and put his lead on,but his determination and strength(he is a young strong black Lab) to reach this stunning lottery win of a prize was too much,and he won a good swipe at it! But know what you mean about those who don't pick up their dogs poo,it would make life a lot easier for those with dog poo quaffers if people did the decent thing and removed it.
Shouting all of the time at a dog is like nagging a child,they will just ignore it,but the one word in a good loud bellow for the horrible stuff has a sting to it,and shows you mean business.Dogs hate it if they think we are angry with them.
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Post by orpheous87 on Jun 6, 2013 20:56:48 GMT
Oh dear migsy! My two both go for horse poo as well. I know that the council are trying to crack down on people not picking up and they're encouraging people to report others, but when you don't see who it is, it makes it hard! That's a good point. I do try not to shout at them all of the time, but sometimes it can't be helped and they never really take any notice. |
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Post by Pawsforthought on Jun 7, 2013 8:47:50 GMT
Orpheous; I can't remember which of the well known trainers said it,but it's great advice;it was that everyone can find a 'fish wife' voice,use it for the most serious problems.It's true too,as when one of my late dogs got spooked by the life boat maroon going off(and it is seriously loud!) I shouted as loud as I could to cut through his panic as he rushed off,so much so it hurt my throat.Friend with me stared in amazement saying, "Crikey,I wouldn't have believed you had it in you!" I think I nearly deafened her.It worked thank goodness and panicking dog stopped still.So really bawl the LEAVE!!! or OFF!! command when dog goes towards or even looks interested in the poo.Good luck. But I would argue that your dog responded so well because he never really hears you yell. Dogs are very good at desensitising themselves to raised voices, so that would only work if she rarely ate poop (and so, rarely heard a raised Orpheous voice (which I'm sure is very scary)) |
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Post by migsy on Jun 7, 2013 21:17:40 GMT
Ha ha,that wasn't a normal shout p.f.t,it was the loudest I have ever shouted in my life,that's why it hurt my throat.I had to make dog hear me as he was fleeing in complete panic,which could have caused him to run into traffic,no one could have possibly have caught him,so it was a life or death resort.
A lady's dog jumped out of the car window in panic and ran away after fire works spooked it,the poor dog was later found dead further along the road,it had sadly been struck by a car.
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Post by ejsmith on Jun 7, 2013 22:34:51 GMT
Hi, I'm new here. We were discussing this at dog training a fortnight ago and someone suggested a supplement. I'll ask on Monday for the details. I doubt that there's going to be a simple solution though, because you are now looking at 'learnt behaviour' aka habit and we all know how difficult they can be to break. Would it be possible to walk them somewhere new for a few days/weeks? The trouble with familiar walks is the dog gets a bit over-confident and if it's new territory you might find the 'leave' command is easier and a new way of behaving on walks. Maybe using a whistle to indicate a 'jackpot' (really high value reward)might distract them? We do agility in an indoor riding school and it always makes me smile when the beginners class are told to bring really nice treats to reward them this whilst 75% would be happy receiving a handful of horse poo!
One of my dogs rolls in foul stuff very regularly and I started calling and rewarding her if I called when I could see her preparing to roll. Trouble is she quickly cottoned on and I noticed her going in front of me, turning round to check that I was watching then dipped her shoulder. There's nothing there, she's just waiting for the recall command and a tasty morsel. As frustrating as it is, you have to admire the intelligence!
Incidentally, I agree about the shouting. Its like swearing, if you use the f*** word several times in every sentence then you've nothing left to use in extreme circumstances
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Post by migsy on Jun 7, 2013 22:45:53 GMT
ejsmith;Welcome!sure you will enjoy the forum.The part about swearing in your post really made me chuckle,I couldn't have put it better!We have often remarked we could make a fortune selling bags of Horse Poo Treats For Dogs.
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Post by orpheous87 on Jun 8, 2013 14:28:52 GMT
ejsmith - Welcome to the forum! And thank you for the advice. Unfortunately, pretty much all of the walking routes end up on the same path here. It runs right through town, and whichever way you start off, you end up walking along the same parts eventually. I'm interested to hear what this supplement is though as that might be easier than trying to catch her right before she eats any. Saying that, she's been very good for the last two days and hasn't really shown interest in eating poo. It's bizarre. We've come across fresh piles (unfortunately no-one in sight by the time we get to it so we can't offer them a bag) and she just walks right past. Doesn't even sniff them! It's only certain piles that she shows interest in for some reason, as I said in an earlier post.
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Post by caz2golden on Jun 8, 2013 20:17:22 GMT
ditto, mine can walk past lots it is just certain ones which are eaten instantaneously
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Post by BorderTerrier on Jun 9, 2013 9:13:03 GMT
Oh dear....
Does she have a good leave it command? This could at least prevent her eating the poop at first.
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