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Post by puddycats on May 26, 2016 12:22:07 GMT
I think there are a lot of cats that are early risers chantel. Mine certainly are! It used to be 4.30am but I have stood my ground and stayed in bed and now we are up to 5.30am. I am hoping to get it to 6am! When Calypso got UTI she was on dry food plus a bowl of wet food in the morning. I have changed her diet now to wet food and only TD kibbles a few morning and evening, plus Dentabites and logic fore her teeth. I also add water to her wet food to try to get as much water in her as possible to prevent a reoccurrence of the UTI. Although she still does have the odd "accident" but it is litter tray related. If there is so much as one small pee in the tray she will go on the floor next to it. Despite having the choice of 5 other trays!!!
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Post by lotsofcats on May 26, 2016 13:00:57 GMT
I think there are a lot of cats that are early risers chantel . Mine certainly are! It used to be 4.30am but I have stood my ground and stayed in bed and now we are up to 5.30am. I am hoping to get it to 6am! When Calypso got UTI she was on dry food plus a bowl of wet food in the morning. I have changed her diet now to wet food and only TD kibbles a few morning and evening, plus Dentabites and logic fore her teeth. I also add water to her wet food to try to get as much water in her as possible to prevent a reoccurrence of the UTI. Although she still does have the odd "accident" but it is litter tray related. If there is so much as one small pee in the tray she will go on the floor next to it. Despite having the choice of 5 other trays!!! Gosh, puddycats, you have more litter trays in the house than I have with 7 cats!
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Post by chantel on May 27, 2016 14:52:14 GMT
I think there are a lot of cats that are early risers chantel . Mine certainly are! It used to be 4.30am but I have stood my ground and stayed in bed and now we are up to 5.30am. I am hoping to get it to 6am! When Calypso got UTI she was on dry food plus a bowl of wet food in the morning. I have changed her diet now to wet food and only TD kibbles a few morning and evening, plus Dentabites and logic fore her teeth. I also add water to her wet food to try to get as much water in her as possible to prevent a reoccurrence of the UTI. Although she still does have the odd "accident" but it is litter tray related. If there is so much as one small pee in the tray she will go on the floor next to it. Despite having the choice of 5 other trays!!!We
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Post by chantel on May 27, 2016 15:19:25 GMT
I think there are a lot of cats that are early risers chantel . Mine certainly are! It used to be 4.30am but I have stood my ground and stayed in bed and now we are up to 5.30am. I am hoping to get it to 6am! When Calypso got UTI she was on dry food plus a bowl of wet food in the morning. I have changed her diet now to wet food and only TD kibbles a few morning and evening, plus Dentabites and logic fore her teeth. I also add water to her wet food to try to get as much water in her as possible to prevent a reoccurrence of the UTI. Although she still does have the odd "accident" but it is litter tray related. If there is so much as one small pee in the tray she will go on the floor next to it. Despite having the choice of 5 other trays!!! Well I feel a bit better that I'm not the only one to have a early riser (: has for the urinary problems it is a new learning curve for me ,my late cat never had these problems.I'm just hoping that this isn't going to be a regular issue for him.the vet just prescribed some inflammatory medication for cystitis. He is now having more wet than dry but I can't cut out his dry completely as I normally give him some dry biscuits in his treat ball when he rises (early) and I have replaced his cat milk and biscuits at supper time with a some biscuits in his treat ball taken from his daily allowance.although he is having more wet than dry now.he drinks plenty of water anyway but I am adding a little water like you mentioned to his wet food as advised by the vet.he doesn't seem to be spending quite as much time in his litter tray but he is only doing small amounts .The vet said that if he wasn't passing any at all I had got to take him straight back as a emergency. Has for the litter tray I have now provided another one has for some reason he wouldn't do his poop in is litter box but this only happened since he had started with this problem he was pooing just in front of his tray and like you there was only the slightest little wet patch .touch wood we have had no accidents since then . That's a lot of litter trays puddycats.(:
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Post by tonib on May 27, 2016 15:39:28 GMT
We currently have 6 litter trays for 3 cats of which 2 are currently allowed outside (hopefully eventually 3 when Roman is recovered), one of the 2 (Osiris) hates using a litter tray & will wait until he's outsde if he possiblly can, if not he will use a pristine litter tray for urine (sometimes) & otherwise used the bath - at least its easily cleanable, just as well when he had a couple of nights of upset tum!!!! Mind you some of those trays are due to Roman's incarceration e.g there's one in his crate (although he's not using the crate at the moment) & also in each of the 2 rooms he's kept in during the day. We only had 1 less when Penny was alive & needed litter trays close to her due to kidney disease! The litter in the trays varies some have wood/paper pellet & some clumping clay based ones & some are hooded. Roman in particular will dig to Australia & the hooded ones help stop him covering the surrounding floor, whilst the paper pellet variety doesn't go to powder when wet so is better in the open trays or when he (especially the one in his crate - no way could he get in a covered one in that!). Although we still have some wood pellet left so its mixed in with the paper in one of the trays. Glad there seems to be some improvement in Freddy chantel
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Post by chantel on May 27, 2016 15:50:24 GMT
Sorry to hear Freddy had to have a vet visit chantel , but glad it wasn't serious. In answer to one of your questions you can definitely get all the veterinary diets online from a wide variety of suppliers including the obvious m3edicine companies, including some that would surprise you e.g fetch.co.uk (the pet arm of ocado)! Also zooplus & bitiba (the cheaper but a higher free delivery charge version of zooplus) Despite having 2 out of our 3 cats who eat varying proportions of dried to wet we've been lucky with no urinary problems. We've now got Roman on Royal Canin Light & Appetite Control dried along with RC light moist or Felix ordinary pouches as this winter he put on weight (he's around 12) but didn't lose it & the vets want his weight down as that could have been one of the reasons behind his cruciate ligament injury. His problem is he often only eats the jelly from the moist but loves his kibble. As he's an oudoor cat he definitely supplements his meals with hunting (not sure how much though) so very difficult to monitor his intake. Luckily the cruciate incarceration is helping us get on top of his weight he's already lost 0.5Kg - the first target (back to his long-term weight but the vet thinks another 0.5Kg sould be good.) We also had Penny on Royal Canin kidney kibble (she didn't like the Hills) & had no trouble getting the food online. As to the 4:30 a.m. wake up was that happening over winter or is it related to the time of dawn now its earlier? Luckily ours, when forced to be kept in overnight have been patient once they've settled but they also have food available all the time - assuming they haven't eaten their portion (we use microchip feeders so they can only access their own bowls. If you can't break the 4:30 habit, is it worh investing in a timed feeder so that you can Freddy a little kible timed for 4:30 a.m. so that he doesn't have to disturb you. Thanks tonib for your advice i have made a note on those suppliers ,the vet said it could be a short time or it could be long term although I will keep him on a weight control dry anyway he still needs to lose a little more weight which isn't easy when he is such a hungry nose or should I say greedy (: Sorry to hear about Roman's cruciate problem but it's good that the food is helping. It's not so easy when they are a little older they are not so active I had the same problem with Sindy. Has for Freddy he is very active although it's not so good for Riley he Torment's the life out of him (: (:
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Post by tonib on May 27, 2016 18:42:17 GMT
Sorry to hear about Roman's cruciate problem but it's good that the food is helping. It's not so easy when they are a little older they are not so active I had the same problem with Sindy. Has for Freddy he is very active although it's not so good for Riley he Torment's the life out of him (: (: Thanks chantel, Roman was stil quite active (until the cruciate injury) although possibly not doing the 4 miles a night that we have previously recorded for him when we had the G-Paws tracker on him He still could be found the furthest away from us of all of our cats & was quite capable of supplimenting his diet himself. I suppose one advantage of his incarceration is tht we can closely monitor his intake! He weighed in at 5.6Kg a week ago which is a good improvement from the 6.1Kg he was at the time of the injury. So he's now back to what we classd as his normal weight historically but the vet would like him to lose up to another 0.5Kg to reduce any strain on his ligaments. Once he's allowed out again I think we'll have to keep checking his weight (on reliable scales) to see make sure he doesn't overeat elsewhere
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Post by gypsy on May 27, 2016 19:46:13 GMT
Sorry to hear Freddy had to have a vet visit chantel , but glad it wasn't serious. In answer to one of your questions you can definitely get all the veterinary diets online from a wide variety of suppliers including the obvious m3edicine companies, including some that would surprise you e.g fetch.co.uk (the pet arm of ocado)! Also zooplus & bitiba (the cheaper but a higher free delivery charge version of zooplus) Despite having 2 out of our 3 cats who eat varying proportions of dried to wet we've been lucky with no urinary problems. We've now got Roman on Royal Canin Light & Appetite Control dried along with RC light moist or Felix ordinary pouches as this winter he put on weight (he's around 12) but didn't lose it & the vets want his weight down as that could have been one of the reasons behind his cruciate ligament injury. His problem is he often only eats the jelly from the moist but loves his kibble. As he's an oudoor cat he definitely supplements his meals with hunting (not sure how much though) so very difficult to monitor his intake. Luckily the cruciate incarceration is helping us get on top of his weight he's already lost 0.5Kg - the first target (back to his long-term weight but the vet thinks another 0.5Kg sould be good.) We also had Penny on Royal Canin kidney kibble (she didn't like the Hills) & had no trouble getting the food online. As to the 4:30 a.m. wake up was that happening over winter or is it related to the time of dawn now its earlier? Luckily ours, when forced to be kept in overnight have been patient once they've settled but they also have food available all the time - assuming they haven't eaten their portion (we use microchip feeders so they can only access their own bowls. If you can't break the 4:30 habit, is it worh investing in a timed feeder so that you can Freddy a little kible timed for 4:30 a.m. so that he doesn't have to disturb you. Thanks tonib for your advice i have made a note on those suppliers , the vet said it could be a short time or it could be long term although I will keep him on a weight control dry anyway he still needs to lose a little more weight which isn't easy when he is such a hungry nose or should I say greedy (: Sorry to hear about Roman's cruciate problem but it's good that the food is helping. It's not so easy when they are a little older they are not so active I had the same problem with Sindy. Has for Freddy he is very active although it's not so good for Riley he Torment's the life out of him (: (: It doesn't have to be a long term problem if the right diet adjustments are made now. My male cat developed cystitis when he was almost 2 yrs of age. At the time he was on Burns (holistic) dry food because I believed it to be the best for him at the time!! He was treated and recovered, but within 3 months he suffered another bout. This time I was determind to get to the root cause of it. After a bit of research I moved him onto a high quality meat, no carb diet (cats are obligate carnivores after all!!) and he is now 11 yrs old and (touch wood) he has never had cystitis or indeed any urinary problems since. If the diet is mostly wet, a small amount of dry is fine if its high meat and no/low carb fed in moderation. It really is the high carb/grain dry diets that cause the problems. See it all the time and its very frustrating because old school vets often recommend 'high grain, over-priced, prescription diets to treat these problems, when they are usually the cause of the problem! Of course what doesn't help is, a complete wet food isn't the cheapest option (not if you have more than one cat!) and most cats raised on dry food become 'junkie cats' and refuse to anything else! catinfo.org/urinarytracthealth.phphealthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2009/10/22/these-3-things-may-indicate-your-pet-has-a-bladder-problem.aspx
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Post by chantel on May 28, 2016 6:38:48 GMT
Thanks tonib for your advice i have made a note on those suppliers , the vet said it could be a short time or it could be long term although I will keep him on a weight control dry anyway he still needs to lose a little more weight which isn't easy when he is such a hungry nose or should I say greedy (: Sorry to hear about Roman's cruciate problem but it's good that the food is helping. It's not so easy when they are a little older they are not so active I had the same problem with Sindy. Has for Freddy he is very active although it's not so good for Riley he Torment's the life out of him (: (: It doesn't have to be a long term problem if the right diet adjustments are made now. My male cat developed cystitis when he was almost 2 yrs of age. At the time he was on Burns (holistic) dry food because I believed it to be the best for him at the time!! He was treated and recovered, but within 3 months he suffered another bout. This time I was determind to get to the root cause of it. After a bit of research I moved him onto a high quality meat, no carb diet (cats are obligate carnivores after all!!) and he is now 11 yrs old and (touch wood) he has never had cystitis or indeed any urinary problems since. If the diet is mostly wet, a small amount of dry is fine if its high meat and no/low carb fed in moderation. It really is the high carb/grain dry diets that cause the problems. See it all the time and its very frustrating because old school vets often recommend 'high grain, over-priced, prescription diets to treat these problems, when they are usually the cause of the problem! Of course what doesn't help is, a complete wet food isn't the cheapest option (not if you have more than one cat!) and most cats raised on dry food become 'junkie cats' and refuse to anything else! catinfo.org/urinarytracthealth.phphealthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2009/10/22/these-3-things-may-indicate-your-pet-has-a-bladder-problem.aspxThanks for the information Gypsy (: I've just had a look at the link and found it very useful.Freddy is eating mostly wet food other than just a few dry early in a morning and at supper.I'm quite lucky in the way that he will eat absolutely anything he has't turned his nose up at anything yet. once he has eaten the wet food from the vets I will take your advice and look for a good quality wet food for him although the vet has advised to Fred him light/weight control. Typical that I have just recently bought him a box of 44 Felix although I have been mixing it with his hills wet. X
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Post by chantel on May 28, 2016 6:40:52 GMT
Thanks everyone for your advice i have found all your comments very useful more so than the vets. xx
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