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Post by smilesbetter on Oct 1, 2015 8:56:13 GMT
Well possibly the perfume has something in it which has caused this reaction, and once she has peed there once it will smell like a toilet so they will keep going there unless you do something about it.
I would firstly shut them out of the bedroom for a bit while you clean it. Obviously wash the sheets etc (make sure to use stuff that doesn't contain ammonia or anything like that, don't know if companies still use that ingredient much but I know of someone here who had a special kids washing liquid that contained ammonia). Then I would put apple cider vinegar into a spray bottle and spray it on the mattress. I'd probably spray it on quite a decent area around where she is peeing to allow for any wee that might have seeped in, and I'd do both sides of the mattress to be on the safe side. Once that's dried in I'd put down a decent layer of baking soda in a slightly bigger area than where the ACV was and leave for at least an hour, but for a mattress I'd leave it longer. Then Hoover that off and do the other side (do this after you have ACVd both sides btw, don't put ACV on the other side of the mattress after using baking soda on the other side). Then put on new sheets and hope for the best!
Also with kittens I'd keep an eye on roughly when they would normally wee and work on the litter training a bit more just to remind them and to boost their training.
Is she doing this at night when you are all sleeping or is it during the day? At night it could be that she needs a wee and can't quickly and easily get to the litter tray. Make sure there is an easy enough way for them to get off the bed, remember that they are only small kittens and that jumping off the bed might seem a bit daunting so maybe provide some sort of "stairs" off the bed and possibly keep a second litter tray in the bedroom for a bit and then slowly move it out elsewhere as they get older and aren't leaving it too long to go to the toilet. I still have a litter tray in my bedroom and it's the one the cats use most. We only notice a smell right after they have been to the toilet, it's a good cat litter for absorbing the smell. The cats always have access to both trays unless the cats are separated for some reason, and so there is also never a case where the tray is in use so the other cat can't get immediately to a toilet. We always have at least one toilet per cat haha.
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Post by jess on Oct 1, 2015 9:11:40 GMT
Yes, we've washed the duvet and all the sheets and cleaned the mattress with Vanish, which is now soaking up with towels. Ooh, we've got some apple cider so I'll do that as well! The litter trays were very full this morning as I was away yesterday and no one else in the house had the idea to clean them (Typical!) so I've given them a good clean now and may go out and get a third to be on the safe side.
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Post by smilesbetter on Oct 1, 2015 9:42:49 GMT
Make sure to do the baking soda after the apple cider vinegar!!!! Haha.
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Post by lotsofcats on Oct 1, 2015 14:12:45 GMT
The kittens are gorgeous. Glad they were well behaved at the vets. Naughty Olive, weeing on the bed! I've not had any of mine weeing in the wrong place (just my old dog!) so can't help with that.
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Post by jess on Oct 1, 2015 15:50:23 GMT
Right, done the AVC and baking soda like you said to smilesbetter - vacuumed it up now just waiting for it to finishing drying etc - fingers crossed! Also bought some feliway spray which I'll spray on my bed tonight and a new litter tray which I've put slightly closer to the door. She's not done any peeing on the bed today since or shown any signs of wanting to pee on the bed so I'm really hoping it was just those two times!
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Post by tonib on Oct 1, 2015 16:23:58 GMT
Fingers crossed that now you've got the scent (excuse the pun) of her initial pee out of the bedding & mattress she won't find that your bed is an enticing place for a toilet!
We went through a period of inappropriate wetting - stress related - & whilst trying to resolve the problems we bought some PVC fabric & covered the spare beds (under washable bedspreads) &) & the sofa (under a washable throw) so that if they did get wet then it was easy to wash the cover & wipe down the PVC with Simple Solutions Satin & Urine Remover for Cats or White Vinegar (50% white vinegar & water) On all the beds we put waterproof mattress protectors (making sure that they weren't noisy ones) as the mattress takes the longest to deal with as you have to wait for it to dry before making the bed again! That's a bit drastic in your case (just 2 instances) but this was going on for several months. However the mattress protectors have paid off from when I spilt a glass of water in the bed!!!!
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Post by smilesbetter on Oct 1, 2015 17:19:40 GMT
Hope it does the trick! It's worked for me so far and one of my cats is prone to peeing in funny places if the litter tray isn't pristine.
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Post by jess on Oct 7, 2015 20:28:26 GMT
Is it best to leave them when they're fighting or break it up? And what's the difference between play fighting and serious fighting? (If there is one)
Up and til now I've been letting them 'play' with each other but today I had to brake it up because they were hissing at each other for the first time.
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Post by tonib on Oct 7, 2015 20:55:05 GMT
None of our cats play fight, if they do fight its for real but they are all adults & we've never had kittens. We break it up if necessary but try to distract them before it gets to a fight which is the preferred solution.
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Post by smilesbetter on Oct 8, 2015 5:30:29 GMT
My two used to play chase every day and now and then one would try play fight with the other, I can't say how I knew it was playful though, it was from their cheeky body language but I'm afraid I can't describe it. They'd hiss at the other when they were fed up but it was more a case of the fed up one hissing and trotting off and the other accepting that the game is over. Mieze tries to play fight with my dog now and then but of course cats don't play bow so it results in Rosa doing about five play bows then getting confused by Miezes lack of response and trotting off.
I think it can depend on the cat a lot, Mieze loves rough fights like games and playing with toys she can bite and maul, whereas Carlotta was more into being chased, so they seemed to agree to a compromise on how to play together early on.
Your two are still young and maybe they are play hissing too, they may be learning how to hiss in a way, like how puppies growl and bark while playing a lot as they use play to learn. I think the only way to tell is to watch them, I personally wouldn't split them up if they were just hissing unless I thought it was gonna turn into a vicious fight though as it's an important form of communication and good for them to learn what the other likes, what is too far in playing, when to back down etc. My two maybe hissed at each other (and us in moody Miezes case) maybe once every week and we've never once had an actual fight, it was often actually used by one as they walked away, letting the other sleep somewhere they'd been and weren't happy to leave, or in Miezes case if the wardrobe door is shut and she'd apparently been planning to sneak in. She hisses then but with no intention to act on it, it's more her way of swearing at us I think haha!
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Post by lotsofcats on Oct 8, 2015 9:30:45 GMT
Is it best to leave them when they're fighting or break it up? And what's the difference between play fighting and serious fighting? (If there is one) Up and til now I've been letting them 'play' with each other but today I had to brake it up because they were hissing at each other for the first time. My 2 sibling cats, Blackberry and Willow love each other to bits but every now and then they have a good fight, they fly at each other and I see the fur flying! When they do this I clap my hands to stop them. You can tell when they are not playing. Hissing at each other is definitely one of the signs.
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Post by jess on Oct 8, 2015 10:22:58 GMT
Yes, the only reason I broke it up (with a sharp clap of the hands too!) was because Olive had Honey by the neck quite firmly and they were hissing and all puffed up. Normally they just chase each other round the house and bop each other on the nose with their paws but no claws. They still follow each other, chat to each other, clean each other and sleep curled up together, so fingers crossed they'll be staying happy campers with each other aha
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Post by lotsofcats on Oct 8, 2015 14:04:01 GMT
Looks like they are getting on really well with just the odd fight now and then - I've no idea what sets my 2 off but mostly they love each other to bits and like your 2 they sleep curled up together and wash each other and always like to be aware where the other one is.
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Post by smilesbetter on Oct 8, 2015 14:26:13 GMT
Yeah I'd break a fight like that up, that sounds like a proper disagreement. These things happen though, my two seemed to have an agreement on who got which prime sleeping spots when and if one of them overstayed the welcome they'd have a bit of a staring contest, then as I say one would slink off and hiss in a "f*** you!" kind of way as they were already leaving. If Carlotta was a different cat there'd have definitely have been fighting, but Carlotta almost always left after a staring contest.
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Post by jess on Oct 22, 2015 21:19:15 GMT
ahhh they've gone back to peeing on our beds my bed and my parents bed now, and this time Honey. Anything else we can do to stop it? Will it calm down/stop once they get neutered?
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