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Post by cazypops on May 2, 2015 16:17:36 GMT
I agree that he may not put weight on, or it can be managed but as I've said he his case leaving it for another 4-5 years is not worry. He's a very friendly well balanced active boy, so as they say.....if it's not broken why fix it.
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Post by gypsy on May 2, 2015 18:21:12 GMT
There's no reason why Jasper should put any extra weight on just because he's neutered as long as he is still getting enough exercise I've never had a fat dog and my lot are always neutered. Totally agree! Both my boys are neutered and both are lean. One has always struggled to keep weight on and this didn't change when he was neutered - in fact he's fed twice the recommended amount. Exercise and diet are the biggest influences regarding weight.
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Post by zahada on May 2, 2015 18:24:02 GMT
There's no reason why Jasper should put any extra weight on just because he's neutered as long as he is still getting enough exercise I've never had a fat dog and my lot are always neutered. Totally agree! Both my boys are neutered and both are lean. One has always struggled to keep weight on and this didn't change when he was neutered - in fact he's fed twice the recommended amount. Exercise and diet are the biggest influences regarding weight. Not genetics then?
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Post by barley on May 2, 2015 18:32:42 GMT
With Alfie, at 11 yrs old I guess you have to weigh up the potential benefits of reducing cancer risk vs dog having to have anesthetic in latter years and if by neutering it might not help health issues he already has. I was wondering the same thing as Caz2g not sure at his stage of life if I would want to risk having him operated on. Hes a good age hes coping well with his caeracts etc , but thats my personal opinion only you know your dog x Thanks both. I think you're both right. ''If it's not broken'' and all that. I'll definitely speak to our vet though and see what he thinks.
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Post by gypsy on May 2, 2015 20:47:40 GMT
Totally agree! Both my boys are neutered and both are lean. One has always struggled to keep weight on and this didn't change when he was neutered - in fact he's fed twice the recommended amount. Exercise and diet are the biggest influences regarding weight. Not genetics then? Nope...I still think exercise and diet are the biggest influences. The dog I refer to had a stress fracture in his metacarpal in 2013 and had to be crate rested for 6 weeks and 4 weeks of lead walking. He gained almost 6kg and was huge! He went on a veterinary diet (which I'm not usually a fan of but neccessary in this case because it was during a heatwave and he was really struggling) and had hydrotherapy to help shift the weight. A restricted diet and gradual ncreased exercise got the weight off. His genetics didn't keep him slim when he was getting no exercise! Not saying genetics don't play a part but the reason he requires twice the recommended amount of food normally is because he is very active and doesn't sit still. If I feed him some carbs he gains a bit of weight and if I feed him no carbs he loses weight. So IME exercise and diet have the most influence. Unfortunately too many owners use the neutering excuse for owning fat dogs!
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Post by zahada on May 2, 2015 21:01:11 GMT
Not genetics then? Nope... I still think exercise and diet are the biggest influences. The dog I refer to had a stress fracture in his metacarpal in 2013 and had to be crate rested for 6 weeks and 4 weeks of lead walking. He gained almost 6kg and was huge! He went on a veterinary diet (which I'm not usually a fan of but neccessary in this case because it was during a heatwave and he was really struggling) and had hydrotherapy to help shift the weight. A restricted diet and gradual ncreased exercise got the weight off. His genetics didn't keep him slim when he was getting no exercise! Not saying genetics don't play a part but the reason he requires twice the recommended amount of food normally is because he is very active and doesn't sit still. If I feed him some carbs he gains a bit of weight and if I feed him no carbs he loses weight. So IME exercise and diet have the most influence. Unfortunately too many owners use the neutering excuse for owning fat dogs! Think or know? What does hubby say?
And how's the collar bone, been quite a while now - 2 years?
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Post by cazypops on Aug 29, 2015 16:33:18 GMT
Jasper is limping again. OH took him for his usual run on Thursday night, and when they got back he told me that as Jasper was running after his ball he tripped in a hole and went head over heels. Now he's not using his leg as he should. We can't tell properly whether he's just stiff or not weight bearing as he should. He's putting the paw down but he's just not right. We'll put him back onto 10 minute on lead walks over the weekend and see how he gets on, if there is no improvement by Tuesday then we'll take him to see the vet. Just when I thought we'd turned the corner with him.
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Post by smilesbetter on Aug 29, 2015 18:32:17 GMT
Is it the same leg as before then? Sorry to hear this, hope he gets better soon and that its just a temporary thing.
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Post by scallywag on Aug 29, 2015 19:10:18 GMT
Oh no cazypops hope its just a strain and not the cruciate on that leg again, keep us posted xxx
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Post by caz2golden on Aug 29, 2015 20:25:54 GMT
Sorry to hear about Jasper. Hope he is just sore after the foot down hole thing rather than him doing himself a proper injury.
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Post by cazypops on Aug 29, 2015 20:39:51 GMT
Thanks everyone, fingers crossed eh! smilesbetter, yes it's the same leg, and scallywag Jasper didn't do his cruciate the last time. If you remember he partially dislocated the hip. I just keep thinking that if it was the cruciate though, he'd be holding the leg up, but he's not he's still walking on it.
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Post by orpheous87 on Aug 29, 2015 22:05:08 GMT
Oh no, poor Jasper! It could be a good sign if he's still putting the foot down, even if it's not fully flat on the floor though. It could just be that he's pulled a muscle, or twisted it slightly as a result of the trip. I'm no expert, but I would say you're right and if it was the cruciate, he'd be holding the leg up at least when he was running. I'm only going off what I witnessed when Oscar had done his. He was holding his leg up as he walked, but then he'd run after a ball as normal except he'd be kicking his leg out to the side rather than putting it down normally.
Hopefully the lead walks for a few days will see him back to normal!
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Post by cazypops on Aug 30, 2015 16:47:49 GMT
He seems a bit better today, but we're not taking anything for granted yet. It's still a wait and see right now.
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Post by cazypops on Aug 31, 2015 21:46:24 GMT
I'm happy to report that Jasper is back to normal. Yaaaaa! We think he must have jarred his leg/hip when he flipped.
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Post by orpheous87 on Aug 31, 2015 22:54:51 GMT
Glad to hear it cazypops!! Poor Jasper. He needs to learn to be careful! Funnily enough, Oscar apparently ran back to Jean holding his leg up the other day after a collision with some other dogs, but he's fine now too.
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