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Post by puppypal on Aug 22, 2013 15:31:50 GMT
Dad's decision not mine, i think it is just about how much it will cost and we don't have the money right now to feed both raw, barley has got loads of stuff in the freezer that he can have but not really anything sutible for her tiny mouth, and i want to do some more reading about raw before we move her onto it
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Post by AnnaAmber on Aug 22, 2013 15:35:30 GMT
Dad's decision not mine, i think it is just about how much it will cost and we don't have the money right now to feed both raw, barley has got loads of stuff in the freezer that he can have but not really anything sutible for her tiny mouth, and i want to do some more reading about raw before we move her onto it Fair enough.
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Post by caz2golden on Aug 22, 2013 22:52:09 GMT
Well barley is going to start back on his raw weekends this week, so he can get back into his normal routine, and clean his teeth. We also have decided that after puzzle has turned one we are going to try her on a raw diet as well, if it does not suit her then she will stay on kibble if it does we will keep her on raw. Confused , Are you moving Barley to raw? Surly its best to not keep swapping and changing constantly . From the outside (and over a period of times from the gist of what you have posted) there seems to be a lot of inconsistency, one min raw weekends, then weeks without any raw, then perhaps a week or two full raw and then another feeding regime! I am not saying all or nothing here. I know I built the raw up from one day a fortnight to once day a week. Then to weekends to then doing long weekends before switching over. I therefore as such did a gradual but consistent move across in one direction. I am just thinking with all his allergy issues the swapping and changing could aggravate problems as body has no idea whats going on! I would have thought with allergies it is important to be consistent. I would have thought minces (with ground bone like NI) and chicken wings would be fine for a younger mouth with limited bite power. Perhaps someone with lots of raw experience can advise what is suitable for a puppy. If you are moving Barley across does that mean in a year when puzzle goes to raw that he will be taken off it as you imply you can only afford one on raw? Anyway thought Puzzle was going to do SAR and that would mean being provided food for her and I guess that wont be raw!! Thought it was Oscars that supplied SAR food?
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Post by puppypal on Aug 23, 2013 15:46:33 GMT
Well barley is going to start back on his raw weekends this week, so he can get back into his normal routine, and clean his teeth. We also have decided that after puzzle has turned one we are going to try her on a raw diet as well, if it does not suit her then she will stay on kibble if it does we will keep her on raw. Confused , Are you moving Barley to raw? Surly its best to not keep swapping and changing constantly . From the outside (and over a period of times from the gist of what you have posted) there seems to be a lot of inconsistency, one min raw weekends, then weeks without any raw, then perhaps a week or two full raw and then another feeding regime!
I am not saying all or nothing here. I know I built the raw up from one day a fortnight to once day a week. Then to weekends to then doing long weekends before switching over. I therefore as such did a gradual but consistent move across in one direction. I am just thinking with all his allergy issues the swapping and changing could aggravate problems as body has no idea whats going on! I would have thought with allergies it is important to be consistent. I would have thought minces (with ground bone like NI) and chicken wings would be fine for a younger mouth with limited bite power. Perhaps someone with lots of raw experience can advise what is suitable for a puppy. If you are moving Barley across does that mean in a year when puzzle goes to raw that he will be taken off it as you imply you can only afford one on raw?Anyway thought Puzzle was going to do SAR and that would mean being provided food for her and I guess that wont be raw!! Thought it was Oscars that supplied SAR food? Barley will stay raw once he is on it, at the moment dad is in the middle of changing jobs and all that stuff so we cant afford to feed them both raw at the momentOnly qualified SAR dogs get free food, but we have not heard very good reviews about the food as it has given quite a lot of the dogs that were on it runny poo's. It takes on average 18 months to 2 years to train a dog for SAR some dogs less some dogs more it just depends on the dog and the handlerWe didn't do the week raw food as we went on holiday the week i was going to do it. He only stopped the raw weekends as we went on holiday then we got puzzle so things were a bit all mixed up, but now we are getting back into the routine of them again. Once he has finished his kibble he will move onto raw fully and hopefully stay on raw for life except for occasions like going on holiday or being looked after by a friend when we are on holiday without him
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Post by puppypal on Aug 24, 2013 20:01:00 GMT
Barley was very happy to see his raw bowl come out this morning, he dived into it so he obviously still loves it. I also found this great raw food site, that has really cheap prices Here think this is going to be our raw food order site as it is so cheap, and it is near us as well, only about 20 miles away. i really cant wait to switch him over to raw, i love browsing the frozen food section's at supermarkets looking at what food he can have and where i can source different meats from
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Post by BorderTerrier on Sept 4, 2013 10:58:54 GMT
Good luck with getting Barley and Puzzle onto raw puppypal. Will you be preparing raw DIY for the both of them?
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Post by puppypal on Sept 4, 2013 19:51:31 GMT
Good luck with getting Barley and Puzzle onto raw puppypal. Will you be preparing raw DIY for the both of them? yes, i am a bit sad as i missed giving barley his raw food this weekend, i kinda forgot that it was a weekend, i only realized on monday morning, oh well
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Post by BorderTerrier on Sept 7, 2013 18:32:54 GMT
Good luck with getting Barley and Puzzle onto raw puppypal. Will you be preparing raw DIY for the both of them? yes, i am a bit sad as i missed giving barley his raw food this weekend, i kinda forgot that it was a weekend, i only realized on monday morning, oh well Ar I think its because the summer holiday has just passed, and the first school days of the new school year have fallen (for me anyway) in the middle of the week, causing much confusion to which days we're on, so I am sure you will get used to it soon.
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Post by Avansa on Sept 7, 2013 19:05:51 GMT
I would have thought minces (with ground bone like NI) and chicken wings would be fine for a younger mouth with limited bite power. As I'm sure you know, NI make a puppy food, but I think any minces would be fine. Puzzle is more than old enough to cope with eating raw meat and bones... people bring litters up on raw. I understand that it is sometimes expensive to feed raw, and we don't have a lot of money, but we do it for the dogs. With Barley's allergies it seems like such an obvious decision, but obviously as you've said puppypal, it's your parents choice. However, as Caz said, I'm not sure that changing around so much will help with his allergies Anyway, just letting you know that you can feed Puzzle some bits of raw. I'm sure she would really love it!
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Post by puppypal on Sept 8, 2013 8:52:57 GMT
Avansa at the moment his allergies are being controlled by him being on piriton, on double the dose the previous vet said which seems to be working better. At the moment he is on his last bag of food so hopefully once he has finished this he should move onto raw. I have thought more about putting her on raw and i was going to buy some of the natures menu puppy complete chunks today and try a few of them on her to see how she goes. Yes it is ultimately my parents decision but i am the one who ends up feeding them, dad is not really fussed about what they are eating, his only concern is money, mum quite liked the idea of barley going on raw when i first suggested it as she had a friend who was a butcher and he would give us discounted prices on products and free off cuts of meat
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Post by caz2golden on Sept 8, 2013 9:18:39 GMT
I have never used the natures menu nuggets. What everyone think of them?
I have considered the active and banquet nuggets as they dont have rice but have sweet potato instead. However never seen the active on sale other than on their own website. I know they do blocks too and then there is chicken and salmon and the pure tripe and I would consider these too.
However the thing that has stopped me is I am unsure of the breakdown of whats in them. Guess what I am asking is... The ones with rice in is it too high a rice content? The ones with veg (like the active and banquet) is it too much veg to meat?
*edit* considering price 1kg bag of NM nuggets is about £2.95 online (never seen less than £3.60 in a shop) and say tub of Natural instinct is about £3 (the ones I have bought are between £2.45 and £3.15 (others are more expensive)) they are about the same price so which food is better quality in the complete raw stakes?
The advantage of the NM is that it can be bought at local shops whereas NI has to be online (the one place that sells it is a kennels that you have to make an appointment to go in so not convenient).
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Post by Avansa on Sept 8, 2013 13:29:30 GMT
I don't really know anything about NM, but if someone wants to feed a raw diet, why opt for those if they contain rice? For the small price difference, I would much prefer NI knowing that it doesn't contain any grains etc and that they have got the correct balance of meat, bone and veggies I think soon NI will become much more widely available. When our order didn't come through, we had to go and pick some up and it was just a little independent pet shop a few towns away. I was in my local town the other month and noticed that the pet shop there too has started selling it because there was such a high demand for it from their customers! Although it's on quite a small scale right now, I think it's only going to grow in popularity.
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Post by caz2golden on Sept 8, 2013 16:46:07 GMT
Do you still feed NI exclusively Avansa? The Natures menu blocks and nuggets are generally about 55% meat (no mention of bone, think calcium is added in a chemical form) whereas NI is 85% meat and bone.
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Post by Avansa on Sept 8, 2013 17:00:11 GMT
Do you still feed NI exclusively Avansa? Yep, with the exception of the odd raw meaty bone here and there (it's very difficult to feed them to Milo as he won't let you hold them for him but he swallows them in huge chunks otherwise )
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